Red Bull F1

yup, this is it. The first comment on this article by Nick Jack is apropos:

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/whats-really-going-on-after-red-bull-shambolic-2025-low/

Max's gotta go, Lando to RB, Max to McC? what's Lando's contract???

 

I just checked Lando's contract, it's till 2028...

I honestly don't know where Max will go. Give it one more year till end 2026 and go to Ferrari would be by far my favourite move. Mclaren also just signed Piastri for a multi year contract and I think long term he'll be a gold mine for them. Mercedes seems pretty content right now, Max still a step up from Russell of course, but sacking your current fastest driver is not an easy choice to make.


Aston Martin 2026 is very likely though. Alonso's contract ends and age has caught up with him, and he'll stay on with the team as advisor. Max and Alonso are long time friends so Alonso will give him the ins and outs as well. Stroll has very deep pocket and that rumour of a 5 year 200m a year contract isn't going away. Newest facilities, Newey about to get to work with those...The big question is the Honda engine.

Mateschitz's death, the immediate power struggle, Horner's hanky panky hasn't helped matters. They couldn't just let it be as it was post Mateschitz' death. Ego's got in the way. When Max leaves, the team will plummet down the order rapidly and will take years to rebuild. If Horner survives that rebuild even.

 

Date revealed for earliest exit clause activation in Max Verstappen’s Red Bull F1 contract
How soon can Max Verstappen leave Red Bull? Helmut Marko provides a hint.
Red Bull advisor Helmut Marko has revealed Max Verstappen will be able to activate an exit clause in his contract in the summer break, should he decide to leave the squad in the wake of its flagging form in Formula 1.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1068051/1/date-revealed-earliest-exit-clause-activation-max-verstappens-red-bull-f1

 

So a few days ago Horner said the problem is correlation with the wind tunnel.

Max in Dutch interview today ''Windtunnel isn't the only problem, we have other issues that have been internnally known for a while now too''

Dude is the straightest shooter there is lol

 

How can RB, with its resources be blaming its old tunnel instead of replacing it by now? Sam Collins said, during fp1, that the new one won't be productive until 2028. That in itself should be enough to adios Max.

 

Planning permission in the UK. (yep, seriously. it's so bad). New one is finished next year but only will affect 2027 car at earliest.

 

But nothing was really done for Lawson............

Tsunoda will do extra Red Bull testing before Miami Grand Prix
Apr 19, 2025
by Jon Noble

Yuki Tsunoda has been handed a boost in his hopes of making rapid progress in understanding the quirks of Red Bull’s Formula 1 cars, with the squad lining up a test programme for him next week after the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix.

 

Todays rumor!
https://www.gpblog.com/en/breaking-news/mega-transfer-on-the-horizon-russell-and-red-bull-in-conversation

Mega transfer on the horizon? 'Russell and Red Bull in conversation

According to The Race, George Russell and Christian Horner have held exploratory talks eyeing a potential collaboration for the future with Max Verstappen rumours of a potential exit from the Austrian team looming overhead.

 

I'm also reading that Russell could become Max's teammate.

Taking this news with a pinch of salt of course.

 

I actually cant help but think that Red Bull possibly did run the asymmetrical braking system. More often than not do these types of technical rumors come from at least a stem of truth. And the proof is in the pudding. The car did get worse after the TD closed any loop holes on the matter.

 

Mark Hughes very quickly has shut down this rumour, it came from a random newspaper and of course spread like wildfire. He also says that no one in the paddock believes that RB (or anyone else) ever ran such a system on their car. Given how teams can easily get a (psychological) advantage by spreading stories yet refuse to makes me believe they didn't run it. The slightest whiff of it being true and they'd have an absolute field day.



Mark Hughes on X: "@H4LoInReverse @wearetherace They have never had asymmetrical braking mate. It was a made-up story on an Italian website. Not a single other teams believes it ever existed. It’s a bollocks story that fans of the opposition choose to believe." / X

 

I'm with SS454. Mark Hughes is a journalist. Journalist are not involved with the design components of a race car. Going with his word has no foundation. And the FIA could deny this as a cover up.

 

Nicolas Tombazis, an FIA official, shut down the notion of ANYONE running an asymmetrical braking system when it was rumored that RedBull were running it.

 

You have significantly less connections than Mark Hughes, so if you believe that RBR did have such a system in the car, please come with some factual evidence.

 

Both of us have significantly less connections than Mark Hughes, and that's not saying much because Hughes doesn't work for RB. So if you believe that RBR didn't have such a system in the car, please come with some factual evidence.

 

See post 3113.
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Nicolas Tombazis:
"We didn't have any indication or any proof that anybody was doing something like that, that would be clearly illegal under parc ferme regulations.
He didn't flat out say that they did not use a device, because he is not a RB tech, that's why SS454 was simply mentioning that there was uncertainty.
No where did he say there was no device, if you read otherwise, you need the book you suggested.

 

Red Bull's mechanic denies any trickery with asymmetrical braking - F1technical.net
Verstappen shoots down Red Bull asymmetric braking theories
Red Bull denies changing RB20 following F1 asymmetric braking ban - Motorsport Week

ALL you have is a random ass idiot looking for clickbait.
You have ZERO evidence of it, the device does not exist.
Literally everyone denies it, the teams, the FIA, journos.


Do you not think that if such a device existed, ANY of the teams would've pushed for DSQs or proof that it was there?

 

To be fair, obviously nobody at Red Bull will admit to using such a device. So nobody from that camp would be credible.

Bas is right that Mark Hughes has more connections to the people behind the scenes in F1 than we do. Does that mean it's fact? I couldn't say.

Ktu does show a quote from Tombazis that does not say possibility was ruled out, it just was never proven. This is something we already know.

All I can say is that the car has gotten worse after that story broke and the TD went in place. What I don't know is if Red Bulls performance dropped at the same time, or if they have just been on a linear drop that crossed paths with that rumor. I would have look more deeply into it and I would base my judgement on what the data tells me. Doesn't change the fact there was no proof of it being used, it would be own personal wonders and thoughts.

It reminds me of how people claimed Benetton was cheating with Traction Control. There is enough to raise the question, but they were never proven of any wrong doing. Schumacher and the team's performance did not change after it was investigated, so that tells me more than any words written.

 

You're not serious are you ? Do you think RB is gonna come forward and say that something existed? And as soon as you put Max in it, it became more laughable. Lol

 

Tsunoda at Silverstone practicing and getting accustomed to the RB19 car.

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You found any credible evidence they did have it then? Stop deflecting.

 

wait...... I'm still laughing about your Max link.....Lol ...
ok, do you have any credible evidence they didn't have it?

 

I saw a post-race interview, I forgot what race it was, but mostly all the Sky crew anchors were there with Nikolas Tombazis. They, the anchors, asked about a certain team or teams using this assymetric braking technique on their cars and Tombazis literally squashed the idea that ANY team was using this assymetric braking technique.

I cannot find this video on YouTube or Twitter but I remember seeing it.

 

I asked you first yet still was courteous enough to give you 3 separate sources. You still haven't come up with a single one. Stop deflecting, just say you don't have it and it's all in your head.

This is ALL based of a single "News" article of a random website that was used to generate clicks, and regurgitated by braindead DTS fans looking for any excuse.

The cars have been checked countless times, especially so after a story like this comes to light, and nothing has been found. If you think immediate rival teams would've pushed this VERY hard to gain even the slightest advantage, but decided to not do it for whatever reason, I have a bridge to sell you.

For once in your life just please think for a brief moment.