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    WPOZZZ F1 Rookie

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    A banana has more a peel. ROFL :p
  2. DF1

    DF1 F1 World Champ
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    Apr 10, 2007
    This issue affects all of F1 - the future is not sorted at al.....

    Honda is talking to Red Bull about extending its Formula 1 future beyond 2021, but its situation is complicated by financial pressure on its road car company due to electrification.

    Regulatory clampdowns on the number and type of petrol and diesel cars they can sell are changing the business conditions global car manufacturers are facing.

    Legislation is forcing them to shift towards electric vehicles, where the investment required is far greater and profit margins are much smaller.

    The situation is further complicated by governments worldwide trying to outlaw the sale of new petrol, diesel and hybrid engines cars by 2040 at the latest.

    Honda is currently only committed to F1 until the end of next year, after it extended its contract with Red Bull and AlphaTauri by a single season.

    It admitted the main issue surrounding its future is not the results it achieves in F1, but how wider issues for the global car market affect its finances.

    "We are speaking to Red Bull about the continuation after 2021," Honda's F1 managing director Masashi Yamamoto told Autosport.

    "But the other thing we have to consider is the whole car industry is facing a very difficult situation because of electrification.

    "Many companies have to invest a lot, so we have to kind of think about the business side and how efficient we can run the programme. That's the point."

    Yamamoto's comments about the impact of regulatory restrictions come weeks after Renault non-executive board member Alain Prost voiced fears about government restrictions on what road car companies could do.

    "We even don't know what technology we are going to have in the next 10 years in the automobile industry," he said.

    "There's a lot of stupid regulation going on. We're going to kill the automobile industry in Europe.

    "It is absolutely stupid."

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    While the enforced move to electric cars could make Formula E more attractive for manufacturers like Honda in the short term, Yamamoto said F1 remained Honda's priority.

    "Obviously we are interested [in FE] and we are continuing and collecting the information," he said.

    "But at the moment we just focus on F1 and we don't have any plan to participate in Formula E.

    "We have to focus on F1."
  3. Bas Jaski

    Bas Jaski Two Time F1 World Champ

    Mar 24, 2008
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    Well done idiots for listening to children such as Greta Thunberg. The European automotive industry employs a VAST workforce directly, and even larger indirectly.

    Electric cars all lose money. Pretty soon none will want to make cars as, well, there's no money in it.

    But lets forget all that and listen to crying children who can ''see carbon dioxides'', and who are definitely not puppets.

    How to tax air.
  4. johnireland

    johnireland F1 Rookie
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    Mar 19, 2017
    Was driving past UCLA today...all the sidewalks were filled with pay as you go electric scooters and bikes. And the same is happening all over Los Angeles. Car ownership (except for used and classic cars) will be completely dead in 5 years. People will either use pay as you go, or longer term rental of whatever vehicle they need, when they need it. And used cars will be dead within a couple of years of that. Owning a car will be as obsolete as the ICE.

    That said, there will be no marketing reason for any car manufacturer to support any ICE racing...which means we could well see F1 come to an end with the end of this season and the majority of the engine manufacturers dropping out and walking away. And the demographics in the world shows it isn't just here in the US. Honda is just saying out loud what all the car makers know deep down inside. Its over.
  5. DF1

    DF1 F1 World Champ
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    Apr 10, 2007
    Over. As we see it now. E-transport will involve production vehicles. The question is sport with vehicles. A convergence of Formula 1 and E maybe...............

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