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  1. 4re4ever

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    Simple speaks of his character. Agree its are real mess now what ever the actual facts
     
  2. william

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    I still don't understand why Horner's private life has to be exposed.
    It has nothing to do with his professional capacity.
     
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  3. 4re4ever

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    Alot of parents have that ability. That said, if you use your own child for your personal gain that specks of your own character.
    I don't see that as being smart though.
    But as I said that came after the powerplay was already in motion. which I believe started with Horner IMO
    As for the cheating on a pregnant partner in the past it Simply speaks of his character.
    (I have no facts on his current wife in this situation, but my opinion is once a cheat always a cheat.

    IMO I think given the mess Horner started leave him to lay in it. While those that want out of it are to a free start else where.
    As for the inappropriate behaviour leave it for the legal system to sort, not RB or the FIA.
     
  4. Edward 96GTS

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    Horner wants to be another Toto. he wants to own the team. he and Toto despise each other and Horner wants to be his equal.
     
  5. 4re4ever

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    #1230 4re4ever, Mar 20, 2024
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    In any real investigation they look at the character of the person both professional and personal as a factor. Doesn't mean he is guilty, that is a legal matter, not one for RB or FIA, fans or media to decided. But freedom of speech gives all the right to comment and talk about it. I DON"T KNOW THE TRUTH and other than a few we may never know the full truth. You also have to remember, this sadly is part of working in a mainstream media business.

    your personal and work life both are part of your overall character

    Anyways I am done, far to much drama....
     
  6. USMCS6

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    Race the damn cars. There are shows for drama.
     
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  7. Edward 96GTS

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    the racing is boring. this is the entertainment.
     
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  8. USMCS6

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    I guess I dont see it. Maybe I'm not seeing the big picture.
     
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  9. william

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    It should also be reminded that adultry isn't a crime .
    If it was, more than half the population would have to answer for it !
    We are no more in the Middle Age; evaluating someone by digging in his private life is totally out of order.
     
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  10. william

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    Toto doesn't own the Mercedes team outright; he only hold 1/3 of the shares.
     
  11. 4re4ever

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    #1236 4re4ever, Mar 20, 2024
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    I was for the 10th million time talking about character. So ZERO need for your reminded as its meaning less in relation and no one said it was either.
    and half Not even close more like 25%.
    At the end of the day, If you have nothing to hide why worry.

    Also as above if you work in this mainstream sort of business you know this is what happens. comes with the territory. He still choose to work in it. right or wrong those are the facts of the world today.

    Same thing for the Music and Movie business
     
  12. jimmyb

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    I think we all agree that this year's F1 season is going to be a snooze fest.

    So...
    To liven things up (in lieu of good racing), Susie Wolff (managing director of the Formula Academy) has decided to dip her toe in the legal water over last year's allegation about her and her husband Toto in regards to possible "insider trading" with the Formula Academy.
    Susie Wolff files criminal complaint against Formula One’s governing body (msn.com)

    I'm thinking Curling is a pretty happening sport...Discuss;)
     
  13. william

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    People should be protected from this kind on intrusion in their private life, but you seem to endorse it.
    There will always be bigots ready to exploit other people's intimacy to slander them.
    Anyone is entitled to defend his privacy, and we should all condemn those who make their job to expose it.
     
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  14. william

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    This is aimed at Mohamed Bin Sulayem who alledgedly started a rumour, decided to launch an enquiry, only to cancel it.
     
  15. 4re4ever

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    #1240 4re4ever, Mar 20, 2024
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    Sorry but I am not a Gen Snowflake nor will I support their ideals. The Covid mess showed that unless the group in power agree there is only one source of truth whether that's truth is true or not. Point and case these so called fact checkers, I want a world of thinkers that speak for themselves not a world of compliant workers that do what those with money and power say. I think everyone has a right to some form of privacy.
    He is welcome to try and protect himself no one is stopping him...
    But sadly some of the rich and powerful use this sort of thing to hide there crimes and control and that can't stand either.
    so we meet at a cross road of how to offer privacy, freedom & Justice as one. The way you are coming across feels very much like the MAN. Stop this, do that. aka CONTROL people. The people of the world need to be free to act and speak freely. Everything has a solution if we come together to solve it. Moving together towards would be a good start

    An innocent person couldn't careless if there feeling got a little hurt in the course of truth and Justice. Going directly after his Wife and Kids would be a no no. But that is not the case here. His actions Both Personal and Business are being questioned.
     
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    BTW so if he was being accused of this by a non work related woman out side of work his personally life is still off limits ?
     
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    #1242 jimmyb, Mar 20, 2024
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    ^^^
    Snowflake...I think that term went away about 3 years ago but glad you decided to bring it back.

    Horner has already been TRIED and CONVICTED by the vast majority in THIS thread along with most of the media...without the cumbersome issue of actually proving guilt/innocence.
    There's this thing called "Due Process".
    Do YOU think Horner got Due Process?

    PS. I understand that people like you think you're entitled to KNOW the details of this sad trial by public opinion. But you're not. It's NONE of your BUSINESS. You're not an employee of Red Bull or their sponsors. This story has ZERO effect on ANYTHING in your life.

    PS. "Truth" is always...true. No exceptions
     
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    Only snowflakes think that.

    Has Horner and the Woman making the claim been to court ? NO
    Internal investigation by RB and now the FIA have no bearing on LAW or the real truth.
    So either this goes away or one day they have their time in court.
    Till then while presumed innocent he is still the accused FACT.
    He could easily have his legal team take it to court to prove that if it is the case. But so far he hasn't

    Truth sadly is not always true in this modern world. it's just a word now.
    You like trying to taking cheap shots etc online... don't you, but if it makes you feel better about being you go for it sweetheart.
    Oh btw dear you are the entitled one. I just want justice either way that goes. I don't need the details.
     
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    #1244 jimmyb, Mar 20, 2024
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    ^^^
    Nope.
    Truth is always TRUE. That's the case now, that was the case 50 years ago, 500 years ago, well, forever. The only people that doubt the veracity of the word are people that attempt to bend the word for their own uses. "The sky is blue", "The earth is round", "Max is the current WDC", etc, etc, etc. These are but 3 little examples of TRUTH.
    I haven't taken any "cheap shots" at you (please feel free to quote them...I'll wait)
    You say he's "accused"...BY a court of law? Right. "Accused" is not the same as she said/he said. Don't hide behind courts/law on one thing and ignore it on the other.
    Contrary to popular belief, men are not always the guilty party in these situations.
    Feel free to study up on these two massive blasts of character assassination:
    Heather Mills and Paul McCartney
    Duke University Lacrosse scandal (Al Sharpton in particular was interviewed every 10 minutes with the TRUTH. Turns out, it was Al's opinion...shockingly, he never came clean, admitted jumping to THE conclusion that suited his particular agenda, and he certainly never said "I got this 100% wrong).

    Once again: "Did Horner get Due Process" ?
     
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    We will see..
    People said exactly the same thing about Schumacher in 1995..;)
     
  21. 4re4ever

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    -Cheap shot etc, ok just one your snowflake comment. and don't do you classic go around in circles or I didn't mean it that way.

    -Did she make an official complaint YES (FACT) so law is in play dear and he is the one she accused (FACT).
    I believe she was told to take it to the FIA next as they are the governing body.
    But in fact it Just needs to go to court now given the employer's findings. The FIA interest should have been during RB investigation.

    -Never said men were

    -Truth so why is it all these fact checker are wrong with what they say the truth is ? Because the Rich and Powerful, control what they call the truth.
    But yes in a normal world the Truth is true.

    Sorry but you won't bait me in to breaking the RULES here.

    I am sick of your drama. Hopefully I can block you.
     
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    truth ? Prince Andrew springs to mind...
     
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    Also if I recall correctly The cheating on his pregnant partner came out years ago and came to light from her/ her friends and family side. so in this case no one is getting into his personal business at this point in time as it was already a matter of public record from the past.
     
  24. Bas

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    Totally agree.

    It's drive to survive through media. Every day there are new dramas. Whether it's Horner, MBS, drivers, ***** Wolff, fans, tracks...It's making it look like like a total amateur show. It's exhausting and stupid. Moustache boy is happy because his sport is in the media 24/7, not realizing the damage it's doing.
     
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  25. william

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    Possibly, but this has absolutely no bearing on this case.
    People use that without even knowing the first thing about it.
    It's simply trial by media, and it's laughable.
     

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