I should have known...if there is someone who could know about the golden "eight years rule", it had to be you. (And a very wise rule, if you ask me) In the old days, before the "hippie revolution" of the sixties, the "eight years rule" was known by a lot of people, not necessarly wine amateurs, but almost every house keeper, etc (any " bonne maîtresse de maison"). Either you open a bottle of Bordeaux immediately, or you wait "at least eight years"; between - let's say - two years and eight years, these are the dark ages, where the wine has lost the freshness charm, and not yet acquired maturity. During the sixties, a lot of "established rules" were thrown over by the willingness to throw over (including: "with cheese, carefuly match the best white wine" - they went to red"; "with foie gras, you should chose red, not liquoreux", etc, etc...and the "eight years rule". Took us thirty or forty years, but we have know rediscovered how stupid these sixties new rules were...(is it possible to do worse than red wine with camembert? or a "liquoreux over foie gras" (greasy over greasy?) etc...) THAT being said, for something in the range of Latour, I would wait more than eight years; twelve to fifteen, maybe. It could be drunk after eight years, but my guess would be that it would not have fully blossomed yet after eight years. Rgds
Supposedly, you are right (My answer is only theoretical as Latour is out of reach for me now): the ability of the "first growths" of Bordeaux to age is well known; that being said, your always take "some risk" if you wait more than 25 years. Unless you are absolutely sure they were kept in the best possible conditions. Even then, the probability is in the range of "one bottle in six" would be a disappointment at 40 years. (much more if we are speaking Bourgognes: after 25 years, one will be fabulous, the second one, well...anybody's guess) Even with Latour, I wouldn't wait to much; but again, personnal experience matters: 2011 + 25 = 2036: I would be 76 then...another bet. Rgds
Tasted these simultaneously with my dad tonight. Both are excellent. Insignia more complex and Caymus more one note of fruit but that note is powerful. If I had to have a glass, Caymus. A bottle, insignia. Caymus I’d give 96/97 and insignia 97/98.
A score from a local shop today. 2010 Clos de Tart. They only had two left, so: Image Unavailable, Please Login JK
had the pleasure of drinking this last night....wasn't mine...how lucky am I? Image Unavailable, Please Login
Napanook is not bad. I would say that Saddleback, especially the 2016, blows it out of the water. However, the Dominus is just amazing. I like the 2011, 2014, 2016, and 2018 Dominus. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Very special wine. It’s appreciating very well, which has caused me not to drink my last case. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Image Unavailable, Please Login This was epic. I can only imagine the first flight. Screaming Eagle Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
Thanks for your suggestions. Unfortunately living in Canada, my access to wines mentioned in this thread is limited. I live in BC and we can't get Saddleback. I visit Alberta frequently and they don't have it available there either. Or at least I can't find it. Napanook I can find but Dominus is brought into BC and Alberta but is extremely hard to find. I did find a 2014 and 2016 Dominus when I was in Calgary last month. Didn't buy them but now I'm kicking my butt that I didn't. I may have to call in a favour from a friend to go to the liquor store for me and hold them for me until my next trip to Alberta.
I think it's possible but I've never looked into it. I may contact some of the mentioned vineyards and see if they ship to Canada. Fees, taxes and duty to bring in wine vary by province so if I was shipping to Alberta, it would be less expensive than shipping to BC.
This is the guy that I get most of my wine from. His name is Edward. Good dude. He has the relationship on Saddleback. I think he is out of 2016 since I bought the last 60 bottles from him but he may be able to get more. https://calihiwines.com Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
LOL, nothing like cornering the market. Now you've really intrigued me regarding Saddleback. A friend owns a liquor store where i live (we're a mix of private and government run liquor stores in BC )and has often mentioned that they will bring in anything I would like. I may explore that avenue. I'll give your guy a call and see what he says but I'm really not hopeful. I did a little more digging and bringing wine into BC will add $1800-$3600 per 12 bottle case priced at $200 USD/bottle. BTW what is the price in your area for Dominus or Saddleback?
Retail on Saddleback is $75, I get it for $55 from Edward. It’s easily comparable to $150 bottle, I’m not exaggerating (2016). The Dominus ranges from about $200-$500 depending on the vintage. The 2013 is around $500 and impossible to get. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
I get my Dominus from K and L in San Francisco every year...she ship too! Get on their list for updates on higher end releases...Pricing is good too!
Image Unavailable, Please Login Did someone say Dominus?! As you can see, one of my favorites. Sent from my iPhone using FerrariChat
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