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Discussion in 'Drink, Smoke, and Fine Dining' started by schwoo, Feb 2, 2019.

  1. Lolwut

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    ok...we all are wondering...where are those pics taken? Beautiful...
     
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  8. Lolwut

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    They are at my home, in western Canada.
     
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    Surprisingly good, aged Bordeaux from the 2000 vintage. Even the minor wines were great from that vintage, and this little half bottle was obviously well stored. Great cedar and cigar box in this balanced, nicely fruited St. Emilion.

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  12. LVP488

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    The lockdown (although it's easing now) has been terrible for my wine cabinet... and to make matters worse, it prevented the traditional wine fairs to happen, so I'll have to figure out how to make back some stock...
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    Where's the Northern Rhones? Not one La-La here.
     
  15. spirot

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    Opus One is a good wine. perhaps overpriced but its consistently good, and Mondavi/ Rothschild has gone to great lengths to produce very high-quality wine. No need to throw sand in someone's face about it.

    Tempranillo grape vs. Cab... not much of a comparison, very different. Amarone v. Barbera,v Barolo .. .they are all so different depending on the vintner's style so if you like Opus - and that is your pallet, they moving to tempranillo or Rioja or really any Spanish wine is not the next level.. it's a different grape type and flavor profile. If you really like wine sure take a course experience all the varietals learn about the grapes and how the wines are made - then you'll be able to identify the characteristics that you like.

    for the guy who likes Opus - I would say - stay in Napa and go for big Cabs, that are lightly blended. if you want to move to France - stay in either Bordeaux or over to Rhone - Neuf du Pape or maybe even down into Luberon or Bandol... Burgundies are likely not going to thrill you. Italy - Barbaresco, and Barolo... some Amarone from the northeast...

    to me - the most important thing is to know what you like in wine. there is a lot to taste, not every $400 bottle is great and not ever $15 bottle is a bargain. From my experience - I've had lots of wine over the years... some of it extraordinary bottles ... if you stay with good producers usually the cost & quality are pretty well matched. Not every bottle of Petrus is perfect - and once in a while you can get a fantastic tasting $10 bottle of Cabernet... or a village wine is spectacular... but usually you get what you pay for. My cellar is about 250 bottles ... with about 20 collector quality richebourg, laffite, yquem, Clos de Bez, Margaux, Krug-CdM... the rest is for drinking ... for dinner I like Ferrari Carano Cab... smooth and tasty... $30
     
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    Excellent wine. Montrachet- pullingy, chassange -are the white ones... Cote de Beaune:
    • Les Champs Gain
    • Les Combards
    • Chassagne
    • Chassagne du Clos St-Jean
    • Les Baudines
    • Les Embrazées
    I like Jadot wines or Drouhin.... Corton is the next level ... with Corton Charlemagne ( in my opinion ) the best white wine made... if ya'll like buttery vanilla hint of wood, with smooth velvet dry finish Corton Charlemagne .... Montrachet also makes lots of Red - Domaine La Romanee Conti - DRC ... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ so beware Burgandy has gone up in prices big time lately...
     
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  17. dustman

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    Big fan of Phelps Insignia. Thoughts on similar profile?
     
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    Mine is on the way!
     
  19. Scudmsl

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    Similar new world wines to Insignia:
    - Continuum
    - Shafer Hillside Select
    - Caymus Special Select
    - Pahlmeyer
    - Bryant
    - Dominus
    - Dalle Valle
    - Chappallet
    - Buoncristiani
    - Col Solare
    - Dunn
    - Lewis

    And then the really special ones:
    - Harlan
    - Schrader
    - Bond
    - and almost anything with Beckstoffer To Kalon fruit...
     
  20. tgee's458

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    Nice list, let’s add, Scarecrow, Kinsman, Ovid, Colvin, Blankiet., to the list....
     
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  21. dustman

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    Thank you. Several new ones for me to try.
     
  22. arizonaitalian

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    Perhaps my favorite wines in the world...(iirc Robert Parker once said la mouline would be his "desert island wine").

    I had and drank a fair bit of the 88-91 La La's back in the day...sadly these wines are well-beyond the upper limit of my wine bottle budget nowadays.
     
  23. tgee's458

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    No brag, but I live in the Bay Area with a serious cellar, if you ever need more recommendations let me know...
    You seem to have a serious taste bud!....life is too short to drink not so good wines...
     
  24. dustman

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    Always appreciated...I researched and tagged every wine reco above that was available to purchase (and not over $1k/btl).
    I look forward to trying them!
     
  25. adc

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    I would recommend signing up for MacDonald vineyards. The wait list is long but believe all the hype. It's all about the grapes. Tgee mentioned Blankiet where Graeme MacDonald is the winemaker. The MacDonald brothers produce MacDonald wines.

    If you ever plan to go to Yountville, set up appt to visit Blankiet. The Italian home is spectacular. Blankiet wines are very good, too. I am not on the list anymore since I have to much CA. Buying BDX now and planning trip to Tuscany in 2021.
     
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