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Removal procedure for 355 rear shock?

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  1. jssans

    jssans Formula Junior

    Jun 1, 2005
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    Josh
    I need to get this shock out of the car so it can be rebuilt. The 355 workshop manual doesn't have a removal procedure. Can anyone help?
     
  2. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    It not too bad bad a job. It really isn't that hard. If you look at everything you can pretty much figure it out. But here are some general guide lines:

    Block the front tires so the car doesn't roll

    Lift the rear of the car up

    Remove the wheels

    Open the engine cover, and then remove the drip covers on the side/s of the engine bay

    Disconnect the electric motors for the suspension settings (?)

    Make sure that the tension on the spring is unsprung, or use a spring compressor.

    Undo the bottom bolt holding the lower part of the shock to the wheel hub housing, and remove it

    Undo the bolt/s holding the top of the shock, to the shock tower, on the subframe

    Now remove the shock.


    Just MAKE SURE that the tension on the spring is all the way out before you remove the bolt holding the shock in place. If that thing hits you while still under tension it will do some very serious damage. Busted bones type damage. If the suspension is extended all the way you should be good to go. But just make sure anyway to be safe.

    Happy wrenching.
     
  3. jssans

    jssans Formula Junior

    Jun 1, 2005
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    Sounds very straight foward. You have more to offer than the weird & incomplete Workshop manual. Thank you very, very much.
     
  4. ernie

    ernie Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Hey no problem.

    The workshop manual sucks. They aren't very detailed, and as you have found out, are missing alot of stuff. The only thing they are good for is giving you the specs.
     
  5. ferrarilou

    ferrarilou Formula Junior

    Apr 13, 2004
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    Lou Menditto
    Having done this a few months ago on a Mondial T, I would add
    the following in case you get stuck. These are just my
    experiences with one car, so they are not the advice of
    an expert.

    > Disconnect the electric motors for the suspension settings (?)

    > Make sure that the tension on the spring is unsprung, or use a
    > spring compressor.

    LM> The Mondial T suspension had considerable preload,
    and from looking at 355 parts drawings I suspect the 355
    does as well. It was somewhat difficult to find a spring
    compressor that fits on the spring within the confines of
    the available space between the wishbones. I have an
    old spring compressor from Eastwood that would fit if
    I used shorter bolts. I bought new shorter grade8 bolts
    and installed them so that the nut is at the top. To be
    honest, the whole procedure felt somewhat unsafe so
    be very careful. By the time I was done I had removed
    4 shocks with no incidents.

    > Undo the bottom bolt holding the lower part of the
    > shock to the wheel hub housing, and remove it

    > Undo the bolt/s holding the top of the shock,
    > to the shock tower, on the subframe

    LM> Just to be clear, you are going to remove
    the 4 bolts at the corners of the shock tower.
    Do not remove the center bolt as that disassembles
    the strut itself and should be done after the
    unit is out of the car.

    > Now remove the shock.

    LM> In my case, the above didn't allow enough
    room to swing the strut out. For the rears, I had
    to disconnect the upper a-arm from the hub and
    tilt the hub out and down to clear the bottom of
    the shock as it swung out. I only tilted it a bit
    (circa 20degrees) since this is pullling on the CV
    joints and I didn't know if it could cause damage.
    For the fronts, I had
    to disconnect the lower a-arm from the hub and
    swing it down to free the bottom of the shock.
    BTW, pay attention to the caster shims when you
    disconnect this so you can put them back in the
    same way that they were before you started.
    I don't remember if disconnecting the sway bars
    was also necessary, but I had done it anyway as
    part of an overall bushing replacement.

    When dismantling the struts I found that I needed
    to use a different spring compressor that gripped
    the spring over a longer distance. The local
    auto parts had one made by Lisle(?) that did the
    trick.

    Sorry if this is scarey, but the preload made the
    job much harder than I had imagined. I probably
    did it the hard way not knowing any better, so
    YMMV.

    BTW, where are you getting the shocks rebuilt?


    Lou
     
  6. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    Hopefully here: http://www.deltavee.net/
     
  7. ferrarilou

    ferrarilou Formula Junior

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    Exactly the answer I was expecting :)
    I had mine done there, very good job and I was very
    happy with them. I didn't get to run them on the
    track, but I've been happy with the street performance.
    In fact, he has my two spares
    still (from prior replacements) to finish up.

    Anyway, one thing to worry about when re-installing
    the shocks onto the car; you need to be careful to
    make sure the schraeder valve that gets added
    to the shock does not bind with the a-arm. In the
    front of my car, this meant that the valve needed to
    point in the direction of the wheel hub. I put it in
    facing the other way at first and PSSSSSSSST
    leaked all the nice nitrogen when I broke the valve
    in the small clearance on the a-arm. Oooops.
    Reinstalled the other way they were fine. As I
    recall, the rears had more clearance and were not a
    problem at all.

    Again, this was on a Mondial T ... the 355 may have
    more room.


    Lou
     
  8. jssans

    jssans Formula Junior

    Jun 1, 2005
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    Thanks for the hands-on info. I was hoping to do the job without a spring compressor. Those odds don't look very good. Actually I am sending the shock to deltavee. FerrariChat's posts favor their work. Its a safe bet.
     
  9. rexrcr

    rexrcr Formula 3
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    Many thanks gentlemen.

    Lou, I have a solution for your broken shocks, one's salvagable, the other is probably not much cheaper than new, I'll send you details soon.

    Best regards,

    Rob
     

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