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F8 Remove GPL filter in US?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by gowthamn, Dec 8, 2020.

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  1. gowthamn

    gowthamn Karting

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    Since its not mandatory to have the filter in the US, can it be removed in a F8?
     
  2. Dicecal

    Dicecal Formula 3
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    Depends if your dealer will play ball with exhaust mods. My dealership initially has said the Novitec options without replacing the OEM cats would be acceptable with them, now they seem to be balking on that.... “Pending testing by FNA” so who knows now, but does not sound like anytime soon.
     
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  3. mdrums

    mdrums F1 Rookie

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    Warranty is with Ferrari USA. Dealer can assist and argue your case but ultimately it’s Ferrari USA.

    I can pretty much tell you Ferrari will not tolerate the GPF to be removed because you have to go into the ECU to fix dash lights that will come on. The F8 is calibrated for the back pressure of the stock Cat, GPF and muffler. I called and I asked.

    I’m hanging onto my 488 a few more years. After it I do not know what I will get but a corked up F8 I can’t fix the sound of will not be the next one.
     
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  4. GT2goneF

    GT2goneF F1 Rookie

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    Very good point... Corporate Ferrari is who has the say not dealership. It comes down as how dealership presents it, if there were to be a problem.
     
  5. italiafan

    italiafan F1 World Champ
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    Just curious how many people had big ticket items fixed under first 3 year warranty on either the 458 or 488?
    I’m going to guess not many.
    Typically a 3 year old 458 or 488 had about 6K miles or so.
    Depends on how much of a gambler one is I suppose.
     
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  6. MalibuGuy

    MalibuGuy F1 Veteran

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    It’s complicated.
    Somehow I believe that the inclusion of the system affects start up as well as management of cold and warm running. I believe the GPF needs to run at a certain temperature to ensure that it doesn’t clog up.
    Also removing the GPF will reduce exhaust flow resistance and improve flow distal to the turbos, and affect temperatures, so this will need to be accounted for in terms of software mapping too.

    Not a mission impossible, but I think it is one where we need or would want Ferrari engineers to help us.
     
  7. Dicecal

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    The Novitec “Techtronic” plug in module in the OBD port clears the codes before they can be reported and a CEL registers. My dealership did install the Novitec system on 1 customer car, but then was told by FNA to standby until further testing is done when I enquired about a possible upgrade. If it wasn’t such a PITA to do an exhaust swap, one could always return to stock for service. I actually don’t mind the sound inside the car, so it wasn’t a showstopper for me, but from a technical standpoint I’d like to remove the GPFs to improve the exhaust flow and reduce the back pressure. I’m sure I’ll mod the exhaust at some point assuming I end up keeping the car long term.
     
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