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Renault fired Flavio and admitted to fixing/crashing in Singapore 08

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  1. Cavallino Motors

    Cavallino Motors F1 World Champ
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    #1 Cavallino Motors, Sep 16, 2009
    man....Aslonshole has scandal written all over him.
    Renault answered by not defending themselves against the allegation of the FIA that they fixed the Singapore race to have Nelson crash in order to bring out a full course yellow which handed Aslonshole the win.
    In response they fired their team principal, Flavio and their technical director today/yesterday.

    And people were upset when Rubens was asked to let Michael pass in Austria a few years back. Here they deliberately asked the #2 teammate to crash. Worst off, it was Flavio and his team that was screaming bloody murder when the Austria incident happened.
     
  2. oss117

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    #2 oss117, Sep 16, 2009
    Major stuff: it is all over the place.
    I wonder what ramifications this will have.
     
  3. RP

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    #3 RP, Sep 16, 2009
    The intent was for Alonso and Massa to be Ferrari 2010. The issue was/is not Renault, the issue is Massa. Massa is worse than is being said publically. Forget the metal plate in his head, his left eye is not on the same plane as his right eye. Hard to say if that will be corrected by January.

    With the Renault scandal, Alonso does not look like really good PR material, but then Luca di Montezemelo is the F1 teams version of Mosley so who knows what that man will decide. He should run for President of Italy and leave Ferrari.

    So, for 2010 it will probably be Raikkonen/Fishichella. The reason that Fishichella was hired so quickly was that the news that came from Miami about Massa was not good. Ferrari has learned from the other teams problems about having two egos at the same time, so doubtful you will see Raikkonen/Alonso, unless there is panic. And Raikkónen does have an ego. Fishichella is quite good at development, better than Alonso, who is only a notch better than Kimi at this, and in a good car Giancarlo is excellent. Montezemelo and Domenicali knew this. Also Fiat wanted an Italian potential first string driver, so it was either Trulli or Giancarlo. The problem for Fishichella is the Ferrari is a POS compared to the Force India. You climb in, you drive the Force India. And now finish very well. With the Ferrari there are a million adjustments every lap just to stay competitive. Piece of crap.

    Rosberg to Brawn more likely than McLaren, Rubins to Williams, Kubica stays at whatever BMW will be called, Alonso will either be booted for the season cause he had to know about the Piquet accident ordeal, or stay with Renault which will hire David Richards. Renault is not to blame, Briatore is an ass and combined with an equal ass in Piquet, they blew it. Thankfully, Piquet is gone from F1, his father's attempt to buy Sauber/BMW failed.

    Schumacher in a third Ferrari is about as likely as Danica Patrick in a third Ferrari. Schumacher's wife is pissed big time, and his neck is more of a permanent problem than a short term problem. There was always that rumor that Schumacher helped his friend Ross Brawn buy out the Honda team, and that he would be in the Brawn in 2010, but that is just wishful thinking.

    Wild card is Toyota. Despite saying they are staying in F1, bets are 50/50 they leave. Trulli to USF1?

    F1 is less and less becoming a manufacturer's series. Budget caps were needed for survivial, BMW would not have left, and Toyota would stay if they could cut their costs by 50%. Force India has shown big budgets do not win races. At least Briatore is gone. Hopefully the other FOTA ego will be gone soon, then F1 may have a long term chance.
     
  4. oscar_driver

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    #4 oscar_driver, Sep 16, 2009
    unbelievable .... I remember Flavio Briatore well, Flavio Briatore for @ least 25 years ,,,,, whoaaaa this is HUGEEEEE
     
  5. oss117

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    #5 oss117, Sep 17, 2009
    Ron, this is worse than the Da Vinci Code.....
     
  6. paulie_b

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    #6 paulie_b, Sep 17, 2009
    whoa, what a story line. Martin and Ron, thanks for the details.
     
  7. red43

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    #7 red43, Sep 17, 2009
    Ron, your post makes for a great movie trailer...and I'm ready to see the full production on the big screen. Go ahead, give us all the drama to come next year....it would make for a great article!
     
  8. RP

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    #8 RP, Sep 17, 2009

    Details in F1 change as often as most people fart daily. By the end of today this will all change.

    I am still waiting for the offer to drive for USF1.
     
  9. Cavallino Motors

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    #9 Cavallino Motors, Sep 18, 2009
    Michael is staying with Ferrari. He just renewed his contract for 3 years.
    The wife that is peed is not Michaels wife but mine because she does not want me to drive for USF1. Sorry Ron but they called me for the seat. They heard your FIA Superlicense expired in 1954 :) (buh, that was low..., even for me LOL)

    Great write up there Ron. Captured everything.

    You have to realize that Michael is 40 and as such he is simply too old to be doing this any longer. As much as we all would love to see him out there one more time.
    I strongy believe that when you get off those cars competitively you will immediately lose the edge and the mental ability to be driving with the sickel over your helmet for 1 1/2 hours straight.
     
  10. RP

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    #10 RP, Sep 18, 2009
    So Peter Windsor lied to me? He said I was a shoe-in. Maybe he said his shoe would be in my ass if I didn't stop bugging him. I don't remember.

    Superlicense? What Superlicense? I was told that license from Extreme would be good.

    Gaby could never stayed PO at you, but I do hear the Mrs Schumacher is boiling and asked Wilie to leave the house.
     

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