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  1. 62 250 GTO

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    MADRID, Spain (Reuters) -- Formula One world champion Fernando Alonso would be welcomed back to Renault with open arms, team boss Flavio Briatore has said.

    Alonso won back-to-back world titles with the French team before moving last year to McLaren where he has endured a turbulent season and an uncomfortable relationship with rookie team mate Lewis Hamilton.

    "I can't deny that I think Fernando is great but he has a contract with someone," Briatore said in an interview with sports daily Marca on Tuesday.

    "He is very special. We had a special relationship at Renault and it was always transparent. Although he signed for McLaren we continue to be friends.

    "Of course I would love to have him in the team, I think everyone would want Fernando because he is exceptional."

    The flamboyant Italian multi-millionaire did not want to comment on the problems Alonso has been having at McLaren, nor on whether he thought the Spaniard would see out his contract with them.

    However, when the interviewer told him most Spaniards thought Alonso would be better off still at Renault, Briatore responded: "So do I. You don't have to be Spanish to think that."

    Alonso finished third at the Turkish Grand Prix in Istanbul on Sunday to close the gap on leader Hamilton to five points in the world championship.
     
  2. LightGuy

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    I think they were a perfect match.
    Alonshole and Briatore. Both Prima Donnas.
     
  3. parkerfe

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    Duh...what F1 team wouldn't want Alonso? He is the best driver in F1 right now and will win more WDC in the future. And Briatore has got to be the best F1 team principle since Enzo himself...
     
  4. 62 250 GTO

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    The WDC standings and the results from the last race say otherwise.
     
  5. LightGuy

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    OK, now I'm going to loose breakfast on the keyboard.
     
  6. parkerfe

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    He gained two points on his team mate in Turkey and is now only 5 points behind with 5 races to go....without the two unfair grid penalties he received this year, he would likely be ahead. Regardless, the WDC and WCC are a marathon, not a sprint... and, Alonso is doing just fine right now...
     
  7. parkerfe

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    Why is that? He's smart, obviously knows how to pick good drivers and win WCC...he is rich, flamboyant and loves the ladies...what else do you want from a team principal...oh yea, he's Italian too...
     
  8. pdavid

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    Fernando IS the best driver on the grid. I wouldn't judge it solely on where he's standing in the points. Like parkerfe mentioned, he's won 2 WDC with a 3rd in sight. But not only that, he's proven that he can provide the technical feedback to push the development of the car forward towards the front of the grid.
    Many speculated that when he won his 1st WDC that it was down to Bridgestone not being able to put together a competitive single tire. The 2nd year it was down to Ferrari not putting together a competitive car 'till late in the season. He helped develop the Renault car to be a title winner. He leaves and then look what happens to them?
    I think this year, he's shown what he's brought to the McLaren camp in terms of raw pace. If you've recently read what he's said (and what Eddie Irvine said a while back, actually)... it's true. He's developed the car to be a successive GP winner and title contender again. Not to give him the credit alone, but he does deserve some. Engineers can only work off what the driver feels when the car is on the track.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Alonso were to move back to Renault next year, that the Renault car all of a sudden becomes a front runner again. The guy is good. He gives good technical feedback to the engineers and has the raw speed at the same time. The kind of combination you want to become a WDC.
     
  9. 62 250 GTO

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    So he isn't the best driver as of now on the grid. That was my point. I didn't say he was a poor driver or will lose the WDC. You can stop defending him with your life you know. He's doing just fine right now.
     
  10. lucky_13_2002

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    For a second here I had to cdriverheck myself. Is this really FERRARI chat.
    Alonshole, just like everyone on the grid (yes everyone), is an exceptional driver. They don't get there by accident. But "best driver in F1"? C'mon are you kidding me. Aside from statistics he has never been nor he will be "best in F1"
    He may be the best-whining driver in F1. Just like you can maybe call FB the best-dating principle in F1, because I think he can't hold a candle to JT.
     
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    Agreed. Too bad him and Todt don't get along.
     
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    He is the best driver currently in F1 is what people are saying. Given that he is the winningest driver on the F1 grid and the only WDC, I think that is an accurate statement.
     
  13. PhilNotHill

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    Yes. Last year Alonshole was WDC and also the year before that.

    However, currently Lewis has made fewer mistakes and is leading the points. When and if Alonshole stops making mistakes he will be faster.

    If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

    If "ifs and buts" were candy and nuts what a merry Christmas we'd all have.

    This year Lewis is better than Alonshole. No question.
     
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    But for two grid penalties, Alonso would likely be leading the title race. That is not the point, however. Alonso beat Schumacher two years in a row but even in his non-championship years, Schumacher was still the best driver on the grid. We are talking skill level and not points placement here.

    I agree with you that Hamilton is driving better, but the reason I do not think he is (yet) the equal of Alonso is because Hamilton is relying on Alonso to set up the cars, he is not yet experienced enough to do his own set-up. In two years time, Hamilton will be the best driver on the grid but at the mement I would disagree with you.
     
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    If that's the case then the Kimster has to have my vote for most skilled. If not for mechanical failures and a car that for a few grands prix was definitely the second fastest car, he'd be much closer to the championship.
     
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    The key word in your first sentence is "BUT". Alonshole beat Shumacher because of various reasons. The first time he did was simply because the FIA were trying to stop Ferraris run away wins and went overboard. They changed the tire rule and Alonso won the role of the dice period. Anyone who cant see that should get free tickets to disneyland and stay on their favourite ride. The next season was really tight and Alonshole deserved the WDC but Ferrari were still scrambling and Schumacher had his first engine failure in ......what? ....3 years ? handing the WDC over to Alonshole. He will never be the best driver simply because he moans, whines, and acts like a child. When you have a professional act like this (everytime he Looses) other drivers step it up just to beat him, not because he is the best but because they cant stand the idiot. Alonshole going back to renaut to rejoin his boyfriend Flavio would be a good thing for all.
     
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    I agree with everything here.

    To further confuse the issue IMO the quickest; IE lap time in equal cars, driver would be Kimster.
    LH is quickest at McCs.
    Alonshole is the best complete driver (quickness,racecraft,set-up,experiance,cold-blooded-do-whatever-it-takes attitude)
    Hope this clears things up ;)
     
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    If Kimster drove his car like it was a racecar and not a farm tractor then he would do much better but thats not how he drives and that is why he will alway have more mechanicle failures than his teammates. Massa will end up being the best driver for Ferrari because he is still learning and he is a lot easier on his car. He also has the Passion. Kimi has peaked already and never had the Passion.
     
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    With your logic then MS could never be considered the best driver either as his antics of running into his rivals to win the WDC and blocking the track during qualifying sure can't be considered "professional" ...how much more childish can one get! I suspect that most other teams would rather have their rivals moan and whine rather than intentionally crash into other cars and block the track...
     
  20. LightGuy

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    Why the continueing insults to those that dont share your enlightened opinion ?
    Ferrai CHOSE their tire manufacturer. The FIA could give a rats behind who they bought tires from. That manufacturer got it wrong that year. If they had produced the golden tire the story would have changed.
    If Mclaren wins this year it will be Mclarengate that caused Ferraris downfall.
    And the blame of others will continue for all of time every time Ferrari doesnt win.
    The sign of a grown up is that they take responsibility for their actions.
    My turn; GROW UP.
     
  21. 62 250 GTO

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    You've brought that up a few times. What about others taking you out, failures on the car? Just being slow?

    What about Hamilton? If he just got a round a couple of extra cars, or Alonso not holding him up in the pits. he could have a 20 point lead and Alonso could be in 4th.

    Pulling fictional events out of the air isn't going to give Alonso the lead.
     
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    +1

    If Alonshole stops making mistakes he'll be faster.

    If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

    If IFs and BUTs were candy and nuts, what a merry Christmas we'd all have. :D
     
  23. coachi

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    I think Formula I would be much more competitive if Alonso does go back to Renault. He is very good, undoubtedly, even though I am much more of a fan of Massa. I would not want to see him on the Ferrari team, but then, those two spots are taken and will be taken for quite some time.
     
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    +1
     
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    LOL :D phil the laugh pill

     

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