Replacement Pads for F430 CCM Brakes | FerrariChat

Replacement Pads for F430 CCM Brakes

Discussion in '360/430' started by LMT84, Jul 28, 2006.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. LMT84

    LMT84 Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2005
    Messages:
    49
    Location:
    The Woodlands
    Full Name:
    Lee
    Has anyone on the board replaced their front and/or rear pads on their F430 CCM brakes. . . I have been quoted $1829 for the fronts and $1719 for the rears by the local Ferrari dealership (parts only). That's pretty steep for pads alone . . .

    I took the opportunity to check with one of this board's sponsors that can source Ferrari OEM Brembo CCM pads and they quoted $1100 for front and $1100 for rear. Quite a bit of savings . . . I tested this with my local Ferrari dealership and their response was that the Ferrari pads have a special "coating" and that there is no way a parts distributor could acquire the official Ferrari pads (hence, the over $1300 price difference).

    I might have been born at night but not last night . . . I am not convinced that Brembo would offer two pads of identical design (save a coating difference) that would fit an extremely limited production CCM braking system.

    Just curious as to the board's experience with pad replacement on CCM brakes.
     
  2. RayJohns

    RayJohns F1 Veteran Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 21, 2006
    Messages:
    7,930
    Location:
    West Coast
    Full Name:
    Ray
    You never know with Ferrari. Did you try calling Brembo directly? I spoke directly with them when I installed Brembos on my 355. Try getting Ferrari spark plugs some time. That's a trick also!

    Ray
     
  3. JOEA2

    JOEA2 Formula 3

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2006
    Messages:
    1,225
    Location:
    Staten Island, N.Y./ Sea Girt,N.J.
    Full Name:
    Joe A
    A "coating" on brake pads sounds odd. Does it wear off after the first or the one hundredth stop???
     
  4. LMT84

    LMT84 Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2005
    Messages:
    49
    Location:
    The Woodlands
    Full Name:
    Lee
    My guess is that it wears off immediately after you are relieved of $3500 for both front and rear pads by you local dealer . . .
     
  5. RossoCorsaItaly

    RossoCorsaItaly F1 Rookie Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2004
    Messages:
    4,684
    Location:
    LA & OKC
    Full Name:
    Kevin
    Brembo will not sell them to you or any Brembo dealer unless they are authorized by Ferrari.

    As far as the pad savings, board sponsors give you discounts whereas dealers charge you retail. They are authorized so they have to quote retail, whereas Ferrari has no say in what I or any other sponsor quotes you.
     
  6. Ricambi America

    Ricambi America F1 World Champ Sponsor Owner

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2003
    Messages:
    16,453
    Location:
    Winston Salem, NC
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  7. LMT84

    LMT84 Rookie

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2005
    Messages:
    49
    Location:
    The Woodlands
    Full Name:
    Lee
    Many thanks to Kevin and Daniel for their responses . . . the sponsors on this site are top notch and I appreciate the straightforward and no BS approach they exemplify (unlike my experience with the typical Ferrari dealership).

    I have no problem with being quoted a retail price by a dealership (it's a free market); however, I have zero tolerance for a dealership offering a suspect rationale for a cost delta and stating unequivocally that the pads can't be obtained through any other source (other than the dealer network). The Ricambi photos clearly demonstrate that this is, indeed, not the case . . .

    Though I truly love my F430, the difficulty in obtaining accurate, technical data and parts information from the Ferrari dealership network is frustrating and unlike anything I have experienced for a high performance (and high dollar) vehicle.
     
  8. 360dragon

    360dragon Formula Junior BANNED

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2004
    Messages:
    400
    Location:
    Sacramento
    Full Name:
    Adam C.
    I prefer stoptech. Just waiting till they come out with a 430 app.
     
  9. derek a

    derek a Formula Junior

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2004
    Messages:
    590
    Location:
    CA OR
    Full Name:
    Derek
    Why?
     
  10. 360dragon

    360dragon Formula Junior BANNED

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2004
    Messages:
    400
    Location:
    Sacramento
    Full Name:
    Adam C.
    Less likley to crack. Had a brembo rotor crack on another car. After that I said I would never use them. So when Stoptech offers replacments I will be first on the order list.

    As the car comes with them I will be keeping a steady hand on the wheel.
     
  11. RossoCorsaItaly

    RossoCorsaItaly F1 Rookie Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2004
    Messages:
    4,684
    Location:
    LA & OKC
    Full Name:
    Kevin


    One experience doesn't mean they're less likely to crack. Making a claim against the largest brake company in the world based on your sole experience is absurd.

    Also there are ALOT of fake Brembo rotors on ebay that are made in Taiwain and China and are NOT Brembo quality. Unless they were bought from an authorized dealer or distributor or were OEM equipment it's hard to take the claim seriously because there is a chance your rotors were not authentic Stoptech.

    All in all I don't want to get into another Brembo VS. Stoptech thread but there's a reason why Brembo spends more on Research & Development yearly than Stoptech's total sales. There's a reason why Brembo is the OE supplier of Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini, and many other manufacturers. What that reason is, I'll leave up to the consumer.
     
  12. 360dragon

    360dragon Formula Junior BANNED

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2004
    Messages:
    400
    Location:
    Sacramento
    Full Name:
    Adam C.
    I was not trying to get into a debate. I was merely offering another thought onto his question. If there were other products out there then I would like to know about them. If he did not care about other products then my comment would have been ignored.

    And I was not making a claim. I was asked why I did not like Brembo and I explained why. No product is perfect and in my case I had a serious issue happen. After it happened to me I did research and found I was not the only one. I am not saying Brembo is bad just that I don’t want to have to worry about whether my brakes will crack or not. It could have been an isolated incident but the fact is it happened. The AUTHORIZED dealer I bought them through could not explain why they cracked either. The rotor was sent back to Brembo to be analyzed.

    Might want to drink a glass of wine before going off the handle.
     
  13. RossoCorsaItaly

    RossoCorsaItaly F1 Rookie Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2004
    Messages:
    4,684
    Location:
    LA & OKC
    Full Name:
    Kevin
    Thanks for clearing that up, one question, were the rotors cross-drilled or slotted?
     
  14. 360dragon

    360dragon Formula Junior BANNED

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2004
    Messages:
    400
    Location:
    Sacramento
    Full Name:
    Adam C.
    Drilled

    GT Kit 14inch front and rear 4 piston.

    Left front rotor cracked.
     
  15. RossoCorsaItaly

    RossoCorsaItaly F1 Rookie Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2004
    Messages:
    4,684
    Location:
    LA & OKC
    Full Name:
    Kevin
    And last question if you don't mind me asking;

    Was the car tracked or did they crack under regular driving conditions and the StopTech you replaced with are they drilled or slotted if you replaced with StopTech big brake kit?
     
  16. 360dragon

    360dragon Formula Junior BANNED

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2004
    Messages:
    400
    Location:
    Sacramento
    Full Name:
    Adam C.
    Regular street driving. It was after a spirited drive through the Local CA Mt roads. I went to lunch then drove home on surface streets. After a few stops I started to hear serious grinding noise. Pulled over and saw a very line on the rotor. I was only 5 miles from home so I perfected my CA stop. Took it to the shop and found out it had cracked.

    Replaced with the same BBK kit from stoptech. Drilled 14, 4 piston.

    After it happened I looked around on the web and found I was not the only one. If I had to guess Brembo had a bad batch of rotors go through. Something in recipe did not get check or who knows. Like I said nothing is perfect and it is a mechanical part which do break down.

    Before you ask they did have about 40% life left on rotors and pads.
     

Share This Page