Replacing the clutch in my F1 360 with a Kevlar clutch

My advice ..get the oem.clutch, upgrade your pump and TCU and then set it up correct ..a good pis etc ..you shouldn't smell anything unless you launching

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I've heard of numerous issues on aftermarket clutches. I'd be weary.

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Lots of owners experimented with kevlar clutches on F1 Ferraris and they did not work. OK for three pedals but the TCU algorithms do not match up well with changes in clutch plate material for F1.

 

Yes the pump , motor and bracket ..I believe it is a kit from Ferrari..or you can look into a aftermarket motor upgrade

The other thing is to change/ reprogram the TCU to bring it up to the CS version

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I almost bought this, but then chickened out and bought a factory unit because I couldn’t get any real world reviews from anyone.

https://mlreng.com/products/f1-hydraulic-pump-motor-ferrari-360-f430-challenge-strada-213264-247223-178757-247723m

 

I couldn’t find a single review. That’s why I didn’t buy it.

 

I would stay with stock OEM Clutch. Seems like some people have issues with aftermarket clutches. I hate to go through issues and have to do it all over again. F1 pumps, I would just go with stock if you think yours is starting to fail or just replace to get ahead of failure. There use to be a guy names Juri who sold more powerful f1 pumps, but I think he has vanished and no longer sells them. Not sure why he doesn't anymore. The one you showed, I have seen for sale online and on ebay, but no real world reviews.

 

I'm currently running a full Kevlar clutch in my Toyota pickup.

Here's a video if you'd like to see the clutch itself:



Just my 2 cents here, but if you don't have any first hand experience with Kevlar clutches, you might want to speak with the company who actually manufactures the one you're considering. One thing to note is that they tend to have a fussy and exceptionally long break in period, as compared to the organic discs.

Just to give you an idea, I have approximately 18,000 miles on my Kevlar clutch and it *just recently* started to settle down as far as having better engagement. The company who produces them said the break-in period was around 800-1000 miles, but I'd say it's more like 5000+ miles actually.

On your Ferrari there, if you were talking about putting a Kevlar clutch into a manual / gated 6-speed car, then I'd probably say yeah no problem - so long as you don't mind slipping the clutch at slightly higher RPM's for a while / and also being a bit more delicate with breaking it in during the first 1000 or 2000 miles. However, with an F1 system, where you are not able to modulate engagement yourself with the clutch pedal, I think you might be asking for trouble. My guess is the F1 software is tailored to expect an organic clutch, which is gonna be a little more forgiving than a Kevlar one. This could negatively affect the break-in period for the Kevlar clutch.

On my truck, even after almost 20K miles on the clutch, sometimes I still have to slip it a bit at 1500+ RPM's in line at In-n-Out burger just to move forward smoothly. It used to cause the entire truck to shutter mildly at times, but now it's a little more smooth and forgiving. I think at this stage most people wouldn't even know it's not an OEM factory disc in there. Once the Kevlar is broken in, it's supposed to last roughly twice as long as OEM - at least that's my understanding.

I think the short answer is - unless you really enjoy dropping the transaxle on your Ferrari - you might want to consider just sticking to good ol' fashion OEM Ferrari parts.

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I have a Kevlar clutch in my 2004 F1 360 Spider. It was installed almost 7 years ago and has worked flawlessly and I love it. It's been so long since the install that I don't remember the manufacturer but I can find out if you like. I know that the secret was the thickness of the clutch. It must match the thickness of the OEM clutch. Also, I am using a CS TCU.