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Replica Problems (value ??? )

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by mattdoe, May 4, 2006.

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  1. mattdoe

    mattdoe Rookie

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    Im curious, as replicas are getting more and more common and rather more anoyying, does this lower the value in ferraris much on the second hand market ?

    And i've been seeing afew LHD 360's being imported and sold for around £45,000, what's wrong with them ? or have they dropped down to this price for the oldest of the models, i was curious if it was the age kicking in on the early models or because of replicas !
     
  2. racespecferrari

    racespecferrari F1 Veteran

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    Left hand cars will always be cheaper, I think normally around £10-15K less, I definitely think the fake 355 mr2's have defintely affected values, just my Two penneth
     
  3. F355 SCOTLAND

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    you will always pick up left hookers alot cheaper but ive not seen a 360 for 45k yet if there was one it must of had a high mileage and as for the mr2 replicas, they should all be sent away to the car park in the sky!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  4. racespecferrari

    racespecferrari F1 Veteran

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    No, the car crusher!!
     
  5. Andy 308GTB

    Andy 308GTB F1 Rookie
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    I don't personally think that replicas have any impact on prices.
    Consider AC Cobra's - everyone you see on the street is assumed to be a kit car but true AC Cobra's appear to hold their value.

    The early 355's are getting on a bit - they are a 10+ year old car, it is easy to forget that.
     
  6. mattdoe

    mattdoe Rookie

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    I was abit worried posting this, thought i might get turned away and told to get lost ! he he !

    I found a 360LHD with ok-ish millage for around £48,000 at a local dealer ! That went pretty quick tho !
     
  7. F355 SCOTLAND

    F355 SCOTLAND Karting

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    ha! totally agree.
    no ricer should have a prancing horse badge on it anyway.
     
  8. PAP 348

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    :eek: yep yep
     
  9. racespecferrari

    racespecferrari F1 Veteran

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    I personally think that 355 Mr2 fakes and Ac reps are in a different league, if you see a 355 you often have to look twice to see if its the real thing as there are so many copies about, also the 355's were made in quite high numbers, With Ac reps you almost defintely know that they aren't the genuine article due to the rarity of the original (unlike the 355), which is why I don't think Ac copies affect the originals value

    I know 355's have dropped and the age factor, but they are still superb performing and handling cars for the money
     
  10. Bronco Jr

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    I dont think that replica's hurt values - the people who buy ferraris, buy ferraris...

    Like so may other areas there will be wannabe's and the replica market caters for thier needs.

    Cobra's and Countach's - in my experiance are always taken to be fake until proved otherwise. Ferrari replicas are less accurate as they dont get built on a new chassis, with a dimensionally accurate body (except there is one Dino rep i think) - so they just look sad, but perhaps no sadder than a one litre Corsa with two exhausts the size of dustbins which is struggling to pull the extra weight :cool:

    To be honest - I would entertain a properly built countach replica, reasonable running costs and if properly built and powered, a decent performer too.

    I've built and still run a westfield (which from being a Caterham replica has grown to a brand in itsself) and its great fun (and faster than the 328). Its goy currency of its own, as has the 328

    2p well and truly spent
     
  11. racespecferrari

    racespecferrari F1 Veteran

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    The trouble is when the fakes are passed off as the real thing and the general public get the perception that Ferrari's are 'common'

    Oh Yes and Oi!, leave my Corsa 1.0 Big Bore alone, Joke!!!!
     
  12. stevew

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    Owners of replica's don't try and pass them of as the real thing,they are always billed as a "Ferrari replica" and why are you so bothered what the general public think.
     
  13. stevew

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    So it's acceptable to have a replica of any other car than a Ferrari,are you saying that because you happened to own a Ferrari.

    Should people not buy for instance,replica football shirts.

    So from what you are saying there is no credibility driving a replica Ferrari,but there is credibilty driving around the countryside posing in a 355 that you don't own.
     
  14. racespecferrari

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    You are so sad obviously you have a chip on your shoulder with my comments over Tr7's

    I was refering to the rarity of an original Ac unlike 355's

    There is a difference between driving a 355 and posing in one
     
  15. racespecferrari

    racespecferrari F1 Veteran

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    So why do they buy 'genuine' badges for them?????????
     
  16. stevew

    stevew Formula 3

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    The TR7 debate has nothing to do with this,this is about Ferrari snobbery.

    So it's sad to defend the right of someone to build and own a replica of a car they cannot afford just because you are frightened of the public's perception.

    As for the rarity factor then,why do people build E type replica's,after all the E type was made by the 10's of thousand.

    The fact that you are driving it on a regular basis and are on here telling us all about it shows you are posing.

    Your profile has a section "Personal Ferrari's" in yours you list your Mondial and a 355GTS(A friends but I use it most),I'm sorry but that is not your personal Ferrari,therefore your using it to pose with.
     
  17. stevew

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    Because you can't build a replica of something without the original name on it,otherwise it wouldn't be a replica.
     
  18. racespecferrari

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    Er a 355 is a damn site quicker than a Mondial which is why I love driving it, Posing is cruising down the seafront at 20mph which is not my cup of tea, I have loved Ferrari's ever since I was a kid and saved for years until my dream was fulfilled, I have a wealthy friend who will remain nameless with a superb collection of cars, if I wanted to pose I would borrow his Roller or Db7, but they aren't my cup of tea
     
  19. racespecferrari

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    So you get an Mr2 with a 4 cylinder engine put about 200Kg of Filler and fibreglass and that makes a replica, no it make s a fake with genuine badges, trying to emulate, also it is illegal to put genuine badges on a copy
     
  20. stevew

    stevew Formula 3

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    No it's a FAKE if you try to pass it off as genuine,replica owners don't.
    http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/cars_search.asp?modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&make=FERRARI&model=F355&min_pr=75&max_pr=&mileage=&agerange=&postcode=BL0+0LD&miles=1500&max_records=200&source=0&photo=1&sort=3&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH

    105 355's for sale on Autotrader,only 7 replica's,not one is trying to pass it off as the real thing.
     
  21. racespecferrari

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    Selling one as genuine would constitute as fraud, and no one buying a 355 would be fooled by an Mr2, I am refering to the Mr2 owners who pretend they own the real thing, I have seen this done with loads from Locosts with genuine Lotus badges on age related black aluminium number plates, to Ac's to gt40's even a front engined Covin/911, its like wearing a fake rolex and telling the lads in the pub its real, Why?
     
  22. racespecferrari

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  23. stevew

    stevew Formula 3

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    In this case I would agree with you,anyone trying to pass off their replica as genuine is indeed quite sad,however,in my experience I have never come across anyone who does that.Yes most replica owners want their cars to look as authentic as they possibly can,but are under no illusion that they are replica's.
    And originally you weren't refering to the owners passing them off as the real thing,you stated that replica's are affecting values of the 355,a replica cannot affect the value of the real thing.Then you stated that all replicas should be sent to the "crusher",why can't someone enjoy the styling of a car they obviously like without the expense of the real thing.
     
  24. stevew

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  25. rizlaneil1000

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    general ponit...


    fake is fake, i wouldnt be able to drive around pretending. living a lie basically.

    as for the autotrader ad... surely the fact that its been 'autoglm' polished every week makes it acceptable!!.....NOT!!

    and what are those rear lights all about? they look rubbish
     

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