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Reproducing "Lizard Skin" wrinkle paint on steering shroud

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by gcalex, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. turbo-joe

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    I once used more heat ( about 80 °C ) and thick coating 2 times and the wrinkles got larger - so totally different than your saying. now I wonder
     
  2. Back'n'Black

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    Are you guys pre-heating both the paint AND the item to be painted to the same temps? My thoughts turned to off-gassing and "solvent pop" when I read these ideas. Not that any of this matters, really, when we're talking about uneven surfaces. Just an old painter's thought process.

    This whole thing is bugging me now. I'm heading to the garage to start experimenting (maybe I'll open the doors, too, to let the fumes out. Maybe).
     
  3. Edward 96GTS

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    gcalex what sn is this daytona? euro or usa?
     
  4. TTR

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    Yes.
     
  5. TTR

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    Based on photo in post #12, I’d guess Euro.
     
  6. gcalex

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    Thicker coats will definitely give you larger wrinkles, so perhaps the coat thicknesses were not the same in both cases.

    For all the brands I mentioned, I did a pretty careful heat-vs-no-heat test, and heating always gave smaller wrinkles; dramatically smaller, if one used and IR lamp...
     
  7. gcalex

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    I found that heating the part itself before painting did not cause much of a noticeable difference in outcome. If I had to draw some conclusion, I would say that heating the part might have made the wrinkles slightly larger.

    Mind you, I am using pretty heavy coats of paint; with thinner coats, I could imagine heating the part will change things more. Of course if the coats are really thin, you won't get much wrinkling at all anyway.

    Tidbit: Plastikote is easily the brand that will wrinkle at the thinnest coats.
     
  8. gcalex

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    Yes; no "VIN boss", so Euro...;)

    As you'd expect, I've seen both Euro and USA cars with that same "lizard skin" wrinkle finish...
     
  9. Edward 96GTS

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    doesnt look like a large vs small wrinkle. orig paint looks blotchy with areas of wrinkle and smooth. ive seen this pattern on powder coated machinery.
     
  10. Lowell

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    The photo on the left of this post shows red and gold cars on a lift. This shows the height of my garage, which also has a large floor area. When I paint inside this garage, if bad fumes are produced, I open two large garage doors.

    So there, Mr heh heh.
     
  11. gcalex

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    Well, my power-coat guy is not aware of a source for such a powder-coat.

    There is a "crocodile" powder coat that at first glance looks sort of similar, but if you look closely it is not the same...
     
  12. Back'n'Black

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    #37 Back'n'Black, May 2, 2019
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    The comment was meant as a joke.... referring to using aerosol sprays in confined spaces and the warnings plastered all over the cans. It's was not directed at you or any other individual....other that to make a joke about the lack of safety precautions people take. If you've never caught a buzz from painting in a confined space, you're not doing it right (the previous sentence was also meant as a joke)

    Years ago, I had a neighbor with an enormous garage. He had just finished painting a restoration project ('63 Vette) in his enclosed garage....went inside to take a shower, and when the hot water heater lit off, it also lit off his garage (and his project). He failed to even try to ventilate after the job was done.

    Sorry if you took offense. Clearly wasn't my intention.
     

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