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Resonate on Capristo lvl 2?

Discussion in '360/430' started by billy721, Dec 5, 2006.

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  1. billy721

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    2 out of 3 F-chatter members with Cap2 on their 360 spider told me their good impression about this exhaust on the level of resonance at low rpm or idling. The other member with a newly version installed at recently said it sounds more noisy then old version on his buddy modena.

    I have heard Tubi in person. It resonates much to my standard. Therefore, I can imagine if anyone tell me it is louder or better than tubi.

    Does anyone hear both Tubi and Cap 2 could kindly give me your comment, comparison about their rumble at LOW rpm or IDLE ? I cannot get any chance to hear a Cap2 over here in Hong Kong. I don't want to spend usd$3000+ and regret in 5 minutes and my wife whine or laugh at me, Haha !

    I believe either the MS-racing or Kreissieg is top of the products but spend $6000+ for a bypass system ( Kreissieg VT ) or $5200 MS-Racing( Ver4 ) is not within my evalution.

    By the way, SteveR, how 's going with your new Larini ? I read one of your old post mentioning all 4 Cap products, saying cap2 is noisy. Could you share your comments? I have a Spider too.

    Thankyou.

    Billy
     
  2. joef

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    Steve will be here shortly!
     
  3. SoftwareDrone

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    The new Cap 2 is loud, no doubt about it. Mine sets off car alarms in parking lots when I'm driving by at very low speeds. I can't take the droning anymore. I plan to either modify my exhaust sometime soon or buy a level 1.
     
  4. MufflerMan

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  5. Steve R

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    The Larini is being shipped-out this Friday, it'll have to travel across the pond and Damian and I plan to install it next week. And when I say Damian and I, I mean he does the work and I stand there and heckle him with questions, banter & jest. :) We're hoping for the best; count on pics, video and a thorough report!! (good or bad!!!!) Damian has spoken to several owners & shops over in England and reports of this system are awesome :)

    As for the Cap-2, I've not heard one in person, but I've chatted with 2 guys who have them. One guy post as SoftwareDrone :) The sound is more tame then a stage-3, but it's still got that drone going on just as bad. Again: if you have a spider, you will NOT like the drone...even my hardcore "love it LOUD" friends agree it becoimes unbearable inside the car. Outside the car, people love it....but for you, inside the car, it's a bit much.

    Capristo quality is also on the slide, when we took my Cap-3 off, 2 bolts snapped, the mounting cushion was cracked, etc. A local dealer, Meridian, also told me they aren't happy with Capristo quality anymore as well. The Capristo that came out of my car also didn't fit in very well, they actually had to grind the frame a bit to get it in! Accordingly I'm gonna have to issue the sad face on the Big-C brand: :(

    Bingo

    Total respect for the MufflerMan....but do a search on "Tubi headache" and you'll find several owners complaining of drone/resonance with the Tubi. It seems hit or miss...some have it, some don't. Probably has to do with the bafflign material used in the muffler itself.

    I don't care for the Tubi, while it sounds pretty good for the people inside the car, it does nothing outside. Yes, it has a nice low-end rumble...complete with a solid purrr that is throaty, exotic and sweet......BUT the Tubi entirely fails to escalate in pitch and blossom into any semblence of a shrill/scream/rasp when the rpm's go up. The Tubi tends to just whirl and growl louder. It's better then stock, but not enough to warrant the cost.

    My suggestion; wait a week or so and let's see how this Linguini...I mean Larini pans out with my car.

    Software-D...for the cost of grafting those valves, you could sell your Capristo and buy a new Larini. Same advice to you. May as well let me run the test thing for everyone and go from there. My fallback is grafting bypass valves onto my Capristo as well.

    If anyone wants to hear a Larini, go to this website, wait 12 seconds for the page to load....then scroll down 4 items and you'll find 4 video's of the 360 exhaust system. I've had 2 guys who own the Novitech tell me it sounds exactly like their systems...and at half the price.....:)

    website: http://www.larinisystems.com/video.php

    Also, the Larini is the only company that incorporates a Triple-skin arond their mufflers AND a new heat-shield design to ensure the maximum in keeping the engine compartment cool. Keeping those air-boxes cool translates to more power. They assure me their muffler is drone-free AND their baffling materials will not breakdown or become compromised over time. Their warranty is solid, the reputation excellent.

    By years end they will have developed their 430 system as well.

    Sorry....my enthusiasm is, at times, overwhelming...but you have to admit, playing around and tweeking the F-Car is part of the fun! :)


    Did I write enough??? :) :) :)
     
  6. SoftwareDrone

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    Hey you can never write too much - we appreciate the info.
    I sat in a Tubi 360 and it droned almost as much as my car. I agree that waiting for the Larini verdict would be prudent. Having said that, I may end up keeping my Cap 2 for prototype development purposes, mainly for the Cap 3 guys, if you get my meaning.
     
  7. Steve R

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  8. Prodrive

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    Just to add my experienced with Tubi.

    I was in my friend's F360 with Gruppe M Carbon Intake + Tubi + test pipe (straight pipe no cat) a couple of months ago.
    No resonance at low rpm (2000-3500 rpm) cruising.

    Nice sound at idle untill to about 6000 rpm .. but above ~6000 rpm the sound level seems getting soft.

    I still prefer the CS sound which is mean, lean and keep screaming loud untill 8700 rpm but no drone whatsoever at low rpm. The weakness is when idle, it sounds too tame compare to Tubi ... :(:)
    Just my 2cnt
     
  9. Steve R

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    Ya know what's funny.....I've heard a few people report that running aftermarket cats or straight-pipes helps removeor reduce the drone/resonance. I can't begin to understand why, but it seems a pattern in the info.

    My buddy Mike up the street just bought some Capristo straight-pipes and found that they are not straight-through...no; there are some kind of resonators inside the pipes which, as it was explained to him, help reduce the drone. I'm curious to see it.
     
  10. Prodrive

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    When I went into my friend's f360 modena, I was very courious about the drone sound many members here talked about. So I asked my friend to drive at low rpm range and I was surprised that no drone at all.

    Steve, maybe you are right about the test pipe reduced the drone to none.
     
  11. MufflerMan

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    Steve, I have the Capristo test pipes and they are in fact a resonater. I can't tell you if they made any effect on drone because I never hear any drone with a Tubi. Which proves the point that this is a very subjective matter. I suppose my tolerance for drone is higher than some being that most of the cars we work on are domestic hot rods with big inches under the hood. You want some resonanace, take a ride in a big block Camaro with Flowmasters and turn downs.
    Thanks for posting the Larini link. I am curious to hear your report once you get it installed as we have only installed Fuchs, Tubi, Fabspeed, and Capristo at the shop and I haven't personally experienced the Larini.
    BTW, if anyone wants straight through test pipes Fabspeed's are just pipe, no resonaters.
     

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