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RHD 246 prices

Discussion in '206/246' started by Marcus 27, Jun 12, 2005.

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  1. Marcus 27

    Marcus 27 Karting

    Feb 3, 2004
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    What sort of price would I need to pay for a really nice RHD 246 GT or GTS in the UK, either from a dealer or privately?

    Are yellow ones cheaper/more difficult to sell (I've been told this is the case for the newer models)?
     
  2. ScarletPimpernel

    May 19, 2005
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    The Back of Beyond
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    Paul
    http://www.racecarnewmedia.co.uk/nickcartwright/stock.asp
    http://www.racecar.co.uk/bobhoughton/index.htm

    Both those sites are UK dealers offering at least a couple of 246's each. There are folks on the UK board who have used one or the other for purchases and/or service. I'm not associated with either. Cartwright has a low mile late Rosso GTS, the price is £65K & a higher mileage Giallo GTS at £58k.

    One of my neighbours had a rosso 246GT to sell late last year. The mileage was over 80k but the condition I would describe was 'tatty' both inside & out. It needed a lot of love, care & money to get it back to good condition. I haven't seen it for a while so I assume he sold it.

    SP
     
  3. nerodino

    nerodino Formula 3
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    May 19, 2005
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    I have just paid 55K for a RHD 246 GTS with flared arches, the car is by no means concours and i am carrying out a major refurb including full repaint, all chrome work, wheels and complete interior. My guess is that the car will probably be worth less than my total outlay but i haven't bought the car to sell or make a profit! When searching for the car i only looked at two others (incidently all dealers) but they were all in the same price bracket and condition, I was swayed towards my car purely because of it's rarity.
    Colour is my biggest dilemma as the car was originally ordered in Nero back in 1973 but is currently in Rosso Corsa, and although i love it in Red i feel duty bound to put the car back to it,s original specification, trouble is Yellow does it for me! If you want a Yellow one Then have a Yellow One
     
  4. mal

    mal Formula Junior

    Jan 12, 2004
    615
    Kent
    Very good GTS's will cost approx 65/70K from a dealer. I bought mine from Foskers near Brands Hatch and have been pleased with the car and service I have received from them in the 18 months I have had the car. I know they have a couple being rebuilt in their workshop at the moment, but I dont know if they are for sale or for customers.
     
  5. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Dec 10, 2003
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    If, and I know this is a big if, you can live with LHD, you can get you a 95 point concours quality GTS for about $110K here in the US. That's about £62,000.

    Couple of grand to get it over to you, and viola, you have a great car for less than a "good" RHD example.

    Euro spec, or US, although I think you'd prefer the Euro car, more HP, less weight.

    DM
     
  6. harvey

    harvey Rookie

    Jan 20, 2004
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    Harvey John Neale
    #6 harvey, Jun 16, 2005
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    I sold my beautiful Dino last year for circa £70k. The new owner, who has become a friend, is thinking of selling it, as he hardly uses it, it will be interesting to see what is makes.
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  7. Marcus 27

    Marcus 27 Karting

    Feb 3, 2004
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    Harvey, 'your' car is absolutely beautiful, but it would be a shame to actually use a car in that condition.

    Realistically I'd be aiming for something that looked like a 3 year old car, whereas that one looks better than new.

    If I spent say, £60k on a 246 GTS at a reputable dealer like Nick Cartwright, what sort of condition could I expect it to be in? I've seen some real dogs for sale at £40k-$50k.

    How much would you need to spend on maintenance of a Dino each year? I'm thinking especially of bodywork, if I used it in all weathers.
     
  8. murph7355

    murph7355 Formula 3

    Nov 30, 2002
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    Nick's cars are beautifully prepared, so I doubt you'd be disappointed and your budget would seem about right from what I've seen. Don't go there unless you're prepared to buy if you're serious about Dinom ownership!

    Not sure on maintenance (too big for Dinos, so never looked into it). However, I wouldn't look to use one in ALL weathers.

    I'm not overly sentimental about cars (I think), and use my others in ALL weathers. But a vintage Ferrari (or any Italian car) is a no no to me.

    As soon as the roads start looking likely to be salted, the vinatge car will go into storage and not come out until it's safe to play again.

    Rain etc during summer shouldn't be a massive issue, but let it see salty roads and my guess is it will dissolve very quickly!

    Good luck in the search though. These old cars really are the nuts - a real sense of occasion every time you even sit in it, and everyone, but everyone loves them. As an example, my mother thought the Daytona looked like a Capri in photos and didn't understand why I wanted one - complete about turn when she saw it in the flesh. She loves it!
     
  9. Tabletcounter

    Tabletcounter Karting

    Apr 30, 2005
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    John
    I bought mine from Nick Cartwright a few months ago and I've enjoyed every second in it! You won't find a nicer chap or anyone who knows more about Dino's than Nick.
    Murph is spot on when he says its a real sense of occasion every time you go out in it - Its just so different from driving a modern carn and the noise it makes is something else!
     
  10. dm_n_stuff

    dm_n_stuff Four Time F1 World Champ
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    For reference on maintenance.

    I spend about $2 US per mile, per year, to keep my Dino running properly, based on my 3000 miles a year.

    Some stuff has to be done every 5-10K miles, and none of it is cheap. Like lots of Ferraris, the motor is easier to work on out of the car, so, some fairly minor repairs take many hours to work around the tight spaces with the motor in.

    I had been told, and I think now can agree, that it's no cheaper to maintain than your average 12 cylinder beast.

    Also, body parts are not cheap, nor are they plentiful. Dinos tend to rust if you aren't careful, and even if you are. They trap moisture in all the wrong places, and won't give it up.

    I've run in the rain, but only when caught out in it, and then spent some time maiking sure the car was really dry.

    If you want an everyday car, this isn't it. If you want an every nice day car, THIS IS IT!!
     
  11. harvey

    harvey Rookie

    Jan 20, 2004
    38
    London
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    Harvey John Neale
    Hi Marcus,
    I am of the opinion that a car in the £40-£50 k range will probably frustrate the purchaser. It is easy to get carried away improving these cars, but with so much that can be done, such a vehicle is the wrong starting point, I looked at several in that price range and never desired to own them.

    Around £60 k makes sense for a car you intend to use. It should be both reliable and sorted at that price, but on going maintenance will be high. I'd budget for £2 to £3 k a year on average for mechanicals. Regarding bodywork you need to be very careful, you want evidence that quality repairs have been carried out and you shouldn't expect to have to repeat work already done. Don't buy one showing any worrying signs, as they can go off very quickly and you could be into big money, only to end up with a car worth a similar amount. The cost of making them tip top is uneconomic, shortly after a good concours result one year, my next bill at Nick Cartwright's was over £5 k!
    I wouldn't recommend use in all weathers as a Dino will deteriorate quickly and you'll probably end up spending 10's of thousands restoring the body after a few years, expensive motoring. I have a beautiful old 911 which I use in all weathers and only used the Dino on high days. Good luck with your search!
     

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