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Ricciardo - The future

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  1. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Not a bad idea. Get the construction crews that did Abu Dhabi--> The Palms and The World with more docks for the mega yachts too. Spare no expense.
     
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  2. william

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    But then it wouldn't be the historical Monaco circuit that goes back to the 1920s, if they add a modern extension, would it ?,
    It would become nothing more than an other featureless track like there are already too many on the calendar (Have you seen what they propose for Miami?)
    The problem isn't with the track, IMO, but with the cars that have been allowed to develop too far and are almost unsuitable everywhere.

    Have you noticed the number of chicanes, or altered corners they had to introduce over the years to places like Silverstone, Spa, Paul Ricard, Monza, Imola, etc... ? Old circuits have been totally emasculated to suit cars that have more than twice the power and 1 ton of downforce, shod with extra wide tyres.

    And also, why are people so obsessed with wanting plenty of overtaking?
     
  3. moretti

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    Oh I don't know .... maybe because it's exciting to watch

    If you like watching processions may I suggest funerals ?
     
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  4. Bas

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    That's already happening....new area will be spectacular. And $$$.
     
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  5. william

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    I think you can have a race-long duel between two drivers with one defending his lead and the other attacking constantly, and no passing taking place, but you witness a very good piece of driving. You can call that a procession if you want. I know that with the current aerodynamic configuration, a car cannot follow closely another for too long because of the turbulences, or the tyres degrade, the handling deteriorates, etc...
     
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  6. F2003-GA

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    Exactly
     
  7. tifosi12

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    What ever happened to Ricciardo?

    Is he still in F1?:p
     
  8. 635CSI

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    No, he went to Renault
     
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  9. DeSoto

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    He's doing well against Hulkenberg. But the car has some issues with the mirrors, among other things.
     
  10. tifosi12

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    Yeah, managed to collect 6 points. Like the Hulk. Meanwhile his former team mate has 51. Great move to switch to Renault.


    LOL
     
  11. william

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    If their engine holds, I expect McLaren will be ahead of Renault.
    I cannot see Renault overtaking its client team yet, nor for the foreseable future.

    I could see Ricciardo and Hulkenberg at McLaren, and Sainz and Norris at Renault.
    Isn't that strange ?
     
  12. jgonzalesm6

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    Well, he's sorta #1 with the team and gets a nice big fat paycheck so yes, it was a great move from a financial standpoint.
     
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  13. jgonzalesm6

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    :D:D:D :p
     
  14. Flavio_C

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    Riccardo was motivated by money and by his fiery rivalry with Verstappen. These two reasons combined made him move to Renault. If it was just one or the other, he probably would have stayed at Red Bull.
     
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  15. Etcetera

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    Not being allowed to win at RBR and not being able to win at Renault are the same thing. Not being chattel at RBR and having equal status at Renault means Renault was the better deal, and one I agree with. RBR treats their #2 drivers poorly. RBR and Ferrari need to rethink prioritizing one driver other the other. If RBR treated DR fairly last year, he'd still be with the team, and they'd be #2 in points.
     
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  16. Bas

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    Was Ricciardo demoted to #2 last year?

    He took the gamble on Renault finally building a good engine for this year. He did the math...4th team 2018, if they build a decent engine to get on mercedes/Ferrari level or very near it, they stood a good chance of overtaking Red Bull who had the questionable Honda engine. Together with a Massive pay day at Renault and a likely chance at #1 driver is what moved him to renault. He believed Renault's ********.
     
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  17. william

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    Ricciardo is paid 3 times more at Renault than Verstappen receives at Red Bull.
    Maybe Verstappen has more chance to hit the jackpot at Red Bull, but even then, the gap is huge!
    Ricciardo is already 29, compared to Max only 21 (I think), so he has less time ahead of him.
    In these conditions, signing for 2 years at Renault and taking the money was very attractive to Ricciardo, no doubt.
    I think that in 2 years time, Ricciardo will still be wanted somewhere if he wants to move.
     
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  18. Jack-the-lad

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    Perhaps at Williams........
     
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  19. william

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    It's not only the engine that is bad, it's the chassis.
    McLaren is ahead of Renault, with the same engine.
     
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  20. william

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    Maybe there won't be a Williams team in two years time !
     
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  21. Jack-the-lad

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    Precisely!;)
     
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  22. Etcetera

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    There isn't one now.
     
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  23. Bas

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    Yep. He went for the money and the possibility of Renault taking over RBR. He needed Renault to simply build a half decent engine and bet on Honda having produced another turd. The opposite happened, for both. Whilst the Honda isn't a great engine, it is quite good, at least on par with Renault but more reliable.

    In the same shoes as him? It was an extremely tempting offer, and as you rightly say, in 2 years time 2 big contracts are up for grabs and they'd be fools not to consider Ricciardo, but at the same time he couldn't afford 2 more years of Max beating him like he started doing from Canada onwards last year.

    Yes that's true. But last year Mclaren with the same engine where quite some way behind Renault, and they fell short of their promise of ''having the best chassis of anyone but we're held back by Honda's GP2 engine''. Very short.

    Ric's gamble hasn't paid off. Except financially. Set for life and all that.
     
  24. 375+

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    +1 agree but there must be something more to explain the poor performance of Renault(and Haas). Renault may have taken a wrong turn aerodynamically but I wonder if they are struggling with the new Pirelli rubber?
     
  25. DF1

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    The man does need to eat :)
     

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