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Robert Kubica Is Back in F1

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  1. 375+

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    It is probably the rally crash in 2011, it ended his F1 career--maybe not?
     
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    you are correct.

    "However, that does not appear likely after it has emerged that it would trigger a reimbursement of a substantial lifetime insurance payout Kubica received for being permanently unable to race in F1 following his horrific rally accident."

    http://www.planetf1.com/news/kubica-return-hindered-by-insurance-issue/
     
  3. LVP488

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    Thanks for this article - it says however that whereas a one-off return was not likely because of this, a "permanent" return could be possible (I guess in that case there might be a financial agreement, which would not make sense for one single race).
     
  4. TheMayor

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    How is Lance going to feel after he's beaten by an old one armed man from Poland?
     
  5. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    good question ,if it happens .Right now he is 4 points ahead of the vastly experienced Massa....in his rookie year.
     
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    He’ll ask Massa back once again
     
  7. TheMayor

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    Massa has been faster than Stroll on just about every session this season. Massa was ahead of Stroll in Baku when he had a mechanical problem. People tend to forget that.
     
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  8. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    Agreed, F1 is a funny old world .

    Any chance of Nicole shocking the world again ..with a return to Williams? (cough)
     
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    Kubica strong option for Williams test says Lowe


    Paddy Lowe says Robert Kubica is "definitely a strong option" to get the green light for a test in Abu Dhabi.

    For several days, it has been rumoured that the former Renault and BMW driver will get a chance to prove himself in Williams' 2017 car in the post-race Abu Dhabi test following the forthcoming season finale.

    "We are considering what the best options are for the two days of tyre testing, and he (Kubica) is definitely a strong option," team boss Lowe told the Finnish broadcaster C More.

    With Felipe Massa retiring, there are other candidates to replace the Brazilian veteran as well, including Paul di Resta, Pascal Wehrlein and Daniil Kvyat.

    "We're open minded," Lowe said.

    "The important thing is that we have the best lineup next year in terms of performance."

    It is rumoured that Toro Rosso refugee Kvyat would bring Russian sponsors to Williams, but Russian motor racing chief Igor Yermilin thinks Kubica has the best chance.

    "In purely sporting terms, they are approximately equal, but from the point of view of PR, probably the Kubica story is preferable," he told Sportbox.
     
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    The only reason to replace Massa with the aforementioned drivers is to lower costs (salaries). No technical justification whatsoever.
     
  11. 375+

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    Massa is probably not as quick as he used to be. It is difficult to say when we have only his teammate for comparison. Hard to say how fast or slow Stroll is but he does seem to be out of his depth.
     
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    If you could magically slot Lewis/Vettel/Alonso/Max into that Williams,you would see what it could really do ,with the Merc donkey in the back.
     
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    I think a test for Kubica at Abu Dhabi is the logical next step. And if he is chosen for 2018, the press it would bring to Williams would have sponsors signing up to be part of the story...and at a good price. Comparing Kubica to Massa in terms of desire and ambition, I think Kubica would bring a needed hunger to the team. Remember he has already proven to be fast in the Renault test day with a 2017 car. And that was a one day test with no prior experience in the car. I think all the other candidates for the seat have none of the energy and freshness that Kubica can deliver. They are already has-beens. Kubica is a fast driver who's career was interrupted. Now he has fought his way back and I think the F1 fans would love to see what he can do given some real seat time...and I think a lot of them would be cheering for him to succeed. It would be far more interesting than the annual Mercedes/Ferrari soap opera.
     
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    Villeneuve, Montoya, question Kubica comeback


    Two former F1 drivers have cast doubt on Robert Kubica's ability to successfully return to formula one next year.

    More authoritative sources are now joining French broadcaster Canal Plus in claiming that after a test for the Pole in Abu Dhabi, Kubica will be announced as Lance Stroll's teammate at Williams for 2018.

    Williams co-founder and former technical boss Patrick Head backed the team's decision to give Kubica a test after the forthcoming F1 finale.

    "Robert was one of the best drivers in F1 of recent years," he is quoted by Finland's Turun Sanomat.

    "Only he knows how ready he is for the challenge. He was seriously injured, and Williams wants to find out what his situation is.

    "If he is able to perform from a physical point of view, he is a very good choice," Head added.

    Brazil's Globo claims that while other drivers were considered to replace Felipe Massa next year, Kubica's talent and a reported EUR 8 million in sponsorship collated in part by co-manager Nico Rosberg clinched the deal.

    But not everyone is convinced.

    1997 world champion Jacques Villeneuve thinks Kubica's permanently injured right arm means the 32-year-old is a safety risk.

    "It's not just about the test where he has to get out of a stationary car with the Halo, which is already quite hard," the Canadian told Germany's Auto Bild.

    "What about a start where he has to abruptly dodge an object? I doubt you can do that with one hand. From my own experience I know you cannot," Villeneuve said.

    "I think the FIA needs to think carefully about how they can be 100 per cent sure that Robert is able to avoid accidents. Kubica himself should also think carefully about whether he wants to.

    "This is not about laptimes, he also has a responsibility to his colleagues. The same is true of Williams. If there is a serious accident, the responsibility will be great," Villeneuve added.

    Another former Williams driver, Juan Pablo Montoya, agrees.

    "Honestly, it's a joke," said the Colombian.

    "I'm sure Robert is no longer 100 per cent capable of pushing a formula one car to the limit."

    The media report claims current F1 drivers may raise the issue of Kubica's apparent F1 return in the FIA briefing in Abu Dhabi next Friday.
     
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    Two has-beens that no one in F1 would hire today, giving their (jealous) opinions on a man who has worked his ass off to be given a chance to race in F1 again. Jack is a poser and a one trick pony whose ego is bigger than his talent. He makes Hamilton seem like Fangio. As for Montoya, he is still a good racer...but I smell envy on his breath. He never had the emotional maturity to survive in F1, and now he puts down Kubica because Montoya will never be made the same offer..
     
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    Jacque Villeneuve saying this in context of how many wrecks in NASCAR he "didn't avoid", and caused/was the cause is pretty funny.



    "I think the FIA needs to think carefully about how they can be 100 per cent sure that Robert is able to avoid accidents
     
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    Montoya kept on racing even with a broken head. He can't even dodge a camera.

    (NSFW)

     
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    I have to say though, I think I'm too negative on Jacque, there are moments where he did some very impressive driving.

    But then there are other moments that are what I remember him by most, and those are embarrassing.
     
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    Kubica represents a youth movement for Williams. He is 4 years younger than Massa and 6 years younger than Kimi. Williams' drivers average would be 26. The average at Ferrari is 34 and at Mercedes, it is 30. Even Red Bull has an average age of 24.
     
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    I never considered that, it's pretty interesting, although i just want to check, is it down to stroll's racing age (12 years old by the look of it)? Hehehehe
     
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    Average age in a group of two is totally irrelevant.
     
  22. Bas

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    Dutch are claiming Kubica back, 2 year contract.

    Personally don't buy it as a) they want to further test him and b) why give him 2 years if he's now ''unproven''?
     
  23. TheMayor

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    There is no way I am hiring Kubica if I don't feel he is faster than Stroll. There's a lot of people out there they can choose from if all they wanted was someone to follow Stroll's slipstream.

    Stroll is paying for his driver's seat. With Kubica they are paying for. He better be faster or there's no point to it.
     
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  24. LVP488

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    I guess until there's an official statement, it's still a rumor.
    Given the way Williams seems to be selecting their drivers currently, it's only depending on financial arrangements (i.e. linked sponsorships); regarding 2-year contract, it's not really meaningful since there could be exit clauses.
    And my bet is that Williams will not actually pay Kubica, he'll have to provide funding with his sponsors.
     
  25. TheMayor

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    Hmmm..... doesn't explain a 2 year contract then. If his sponsors back out they are still obligated.
     

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