Rock 'n Stroll . . . The Stroller Thread.

Williams look to have a decent car for 2017,including the power units.They seem to be always short of sponsors,ok now they have Stroll backing but what they really need is top line drivers and proper backing.

Good luck to Lance,i think it will be either hero or zero with not a lot in between.

 

If he ****s up and Williams refuse to keep building new chassis for him

 

I was only referring to how he does in F1. If what you say is true, he won't last.

 

yap...he was only able to beat 2 world champions with the same car, one former and the other current...no doubt he sucks big time....

 

Tks for bothering to set the record straight

Massa sucks

 

Yes, just as J Villeneuve of 2005 was nowhere near as good a driver as J Villeneuve of 1997 (and even at his best, J Villeneuve was not very good in the wet), Massa of 2017, hell Massa of 2010+, is nowhere near as good a driver as Massa of 2008 was - and even at his best, Massa 2008 sucked in the wet.

 

Well, even sucking he was able to win races in the wet...( i'm glad he wasn't any good or he would have won every single race!!)...i know many that suck in the dry as well...

 

yes...he sucks at being a bad driver..too bad for the haters...

 

I can't wait to update the "Massa sucks" thread this year. What a nice tradition.

 

i'm sure it will be a nice way to vent your frustrations....

 

Frustration? No, it will be fun! I left that thread alone last year out of respect for his retirement, even though he was thrashed all season long, again, by Bottas. Coming out of retirement after 3 weeks, though, means he's fair game!

 

Good for you, it's nice to have a purpose in life...

 

Over the hill "champ" has to come back from retirement to teach the young kid how to race.

Sounds familiar. Where have I seen this?

Ah, yes: the plot of Driven

 

This thread is great. It's a one stop shop for the worst two drivers in F1 2017!

Seriously, how did Williams end up with these two jokers? Merc must be bank rolling them to recover the cost of the huge points shortfall that they will surely suffer this year.

 

Can't blame Stroll. He's just picking up from where Massa left off in Brasil

 

Maybe he can follow in the footsteps of their last F1 winner Spain 2012 ..... Maldonado!

 

ROFL

 

Williams look to Me to have made yet another low drag/high speed car in the hope of making up on the straights what they're loosing through the corners - A case of: "If we go fast enough down the straights then hopefully we won't be overtaken".

It's a nice enough looking car, but they have played things a bit safe!


As for Stroll: His two excursions off track have cost Williams valuable on-track time, and so far he has not been totally convincing.

The problem for Williams will be, if Stroll turns out to be useless in an F1 car, can they afford to offload him?

The first signs of trouble and I'm sure Daddy will be offering silly money to keep his little boy in F1!

 

... that they have long lost their mojo and no longer can attract top people and really are field fillers.

If they ever win a race a huge amount of luck has to be involved. I don't understand how Frank can bare this as I thought this was not his character at all.

You can knock Ron Dennis all you like, but instead of being content with just being in F1 he took a huge risk with Honda and they tried to make a winner. Sure it failed miserably but IMO that is better than the sad situation of Williams that appear to be like an old boxer with little talent; just prepared to keep getting up again to receive another punch to the face.
Pete

 

Too soon to tell IMO. Sidenote: is there any video of the second crash where he put it in the wall? I've only been able to find the spin and gravel trap.

 

I think we need to wait and see, sure, he hasn't covered himself in glory yet, but testing is testing, and he is getting to drive the new car and test its limits. I suspect if the same happened to Elton, vettel or kimi, we would be saying they were finding the limits (but probably should calm down). Verstappen managed to crash in a demonstration run before his first drive in f1, didn't work out too badly though did he.

I do have to agree with the more learned people here that he doesn't seem to be f1 quality yet from what we've seen, but I think we should really judge him after two or three actual race weekends to see if he has it in him to learn from the mistakes, or if he shows no brains and keeps up with the crashes.

As for massa, he is a shadow of the driver he once was, which is nature catching up with him, but he hasn't lost the ability to share his experience with the boy and although they won't need to slow down the footage to point out his lines anymore.... the kid will still learn from him IF he wants too

 

I agree with this. IMO the whole year will be trying for the rookie driver even though sims are way different than actually being on the track. Yes his dad is rich but only time will tell if the kid and more especially the dad have made a wise investment into F1/Williams.

Yes, Williams are in a "pickle" this year with both drivers.

 

ROFLMAO. Poor Massa
Pete

 

Verstappen's testing ''crash''.

https://recombu.com/cars/article/watch-16-year-old-f1-driver-max-verstappen-crash-during-demo-run

Clearly went into anti stall.

Stroll is certainly no rookie. He's done a LOT of testing over the last year, far more than most realize.

 

In races they both finished during their time at Williams, Massa leads 23-22.

Thought that was interesting. Bottas was obviously better when you look at total points, podiums, etc. but I think Massa is a decent driver and will have no problem beating Stroll.