There's a stretch of an imagination, but ok, I'll play along. Let's assume through some act of God Adrian Newey signs up with AM and builds them the best car ever. What would happen? 1. Alonso will win the WDC (he would win it in the RB if he had Max' seat) 2. Lance would score the occasional podium and otherwise continue to bring in results within the top ten, which would likely allow them to win the WCC as well Not that I care about WCC but it would be more than likely they would bag that too. The real unlikely event of this ever happening is not down to Lance but to the lack of a truly #1 car. PS: As for the AMRF1 employees: Without Stroll Senior they would have been out of job many years ago. Better to be #2 or #3 than unemployed.
As my economics professor always said: In the long term we are all dead. Long term they will leave because the company no longer exists (that would be once Stroll Senior loses interest and sells the company). Meanwhile they are hiring left and right. I'm not following that scene much but I'm pretty sure I've seen the occasional headline of them snatching up some other good people from another team. Akin to what MB did while they were still a laughing stock.
IF your scenario was to come into fruition, Lance would cause AMRF1 to slip in the WCC standings, just like they are doing in 2023. They started 2nd in the WCC standings and will most likely end up 4th place in the WCC standings.
Good ! I don't understand your insistance that Lawrence Stroll should be dictated how to run his team. He is the boss, and he doesn't have to listen neither to his employees, nor outsiders . You should look in the direction of Ferrari for bad management, not the bloke who invested so much to relaunch a team that was on the skids.
The slippage this year was less down to Lance but rather the car not progressing as much as the competition (plus one upgrade which was actually a downgrade). Alonso didn't score much in mid season either. Now that the car is better, he scores again.
If Lance decides to call it quits and Daddy Stroll says he's done with F1 as well, they don't just close the doors and everyone is out of a job. He SELLS the team to the highest bidder. Aston Martin (or it gets changed to a different name) continues on with the possibility of being more successful. Had Lawrence Stroll not bought Force India, somebody else would have. This talk about if Lance didn't exist then nobody at Aston Martin, including Alonso doesn't have a job is complete nonsense.
Come to think of it, your reasoning maybe completely wrong. If AMRF1 slips in the WCC, and ends up 4th (as you predict), they will receive less money for sure, but won't be penalised in less development time, wind tunnel, etc ... for the following year. What AMRF1 needs is development time more than money to progress. Money they have,but they cannot buy wind tunnel time. So, although it may appear wrong to have one very experienced driver (Alonso) with a journeyman (Stroll Jr), that choice maybe rewarded in the end. It also create less rivalry in the team. With the new limits on development, I wonder how Red Bull will maintain their supremacy if they keep winning the WCC year after year, and everytime forfeit 10% or more of development.
You aren't wrong, but they had that this year. Out of the gates they had the 2nd best car. Podiums, and were within arms reach of Red Bull at times. Despite the extra money, CFD, and wind tunnel time they have fallen miserably. Mercedes and even McLaren have out developed them. It's hard to imagine that next year will be better when this year was probably their best shot.
You are absolutely right. The other bidder for the Force India team that was liquidated was a chap named ... Dmitri Mazepin ! The Russian billionaire wanted to buy the team for his son. When he failed, he tried to sue Stroll Sr too. With the war in Ukraine, and the ban on oligarchs in Europe, I wonder what would have happened to Team Mazepin ! So Lawrence Stroll buying that team was a blessing in disguise, don't you think ?
They may have failed to develop their car, but had they maintained their 2nd place in the WCC, they would have been penalised for next year (if I understand the rules). Finishing 4th, they won't, I presume.
Wow, I had no idea it was Mazepin trying to buy Force India. I certainly don't question Lawrence Stroll's investment to the team. I question his business practice though. The success of his F1 teams have been a failure up for the most part. I've discussed why before. 2023 will be a failure if they drop from the 2nd best car to finishing 4th in the championship. A huge amount of that blame has to land of Lance's shoulders. I can't imagine being a board member at Aston Martin and watching the highest profile racing with your band name on it being flushed down the toilet because the largest share holder is spoon feeding his kid at the expense of exploiting the team's ultimate success. Now that Lawrence has invested in the team. Buying employees from Red Bull or building new facilities, it's a good team for some other billionaire to take over if Lawrence decides to sell. Bet your butt it won't be cheap though, and he will be expecting a sizable profit.
Monza 2023 Qualifying Stroll doesn't make it into Q2....in fact he was last (P20).....is the slowest of the lot.
Yes, Stroll had to give up his car to Drugovich in FP1. In FP2 his car has technical problems and he couldn't run. So he had only FP3 to set up his car and the team didn't manage to do that. No surprise (to me) that his qualif was abysimal and that he wad eliminated after Q1.
William, he did 30 laps when he got his car back....he's been at this track for 8 years now. Not to mention he got beat by a rookie.(Piastri) I guess more excuses for Stroll.
He missed 2 Practice sessions to no fault of his. That's 2 hours during which you can accommodate to the new tyres, and fine tune your settings. His car has changed from previous years, the tyres have changed, etc ... So I am not surprised at all he struggled in Q1. Lance stroll was 11th in FP3, so I suspect something technical happened in qualifs.
Lawson got thrown into the deep end last week properly. Overnight flight, 1 practice session that got red flagged as well I believe, and was pouring with rain.. Yes qualified last but not embarrassingly slow.
As @jpalmito said, "Ferrari have overtaken Alonso in the WCC standings." AMRF1 is now 4th place. Ferrari is 3rd.
That happens when you don't upgrade the car. Aston Martin was nowhere today, Ferrari was fighting for the top.
No no no, this has been going on from the start and not progressing(Lance Stroll) throughout the season. Alot of points lost in the season by Lance Stroll.
