Is this a really old thread re-brought to life? Anyways... I was sitting here looking at my non-date Submariner and wondering why it loses a minute a month just before I opened this thread... I just like the way it fits on my wrist whereas my Datejust seems too small now. I have to second the quality of Breitling (recently purchased a montbrillant with the moonphases) and it is a tremendous watch. I perceive the quality as better than Rolex but have no way of proving that statment; it 'feels' like it is better quality if that makes any sense... My only complaint would be that I can only wear the watch with short sleeves b/c it is such a monster; I think the Montbrillants are small (41mm) compared to most Breitlings also!!!