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Discussion in 'Technical Q&A' started by plahaye, Dec 7, 2003.

  1. plahaye

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    Does anyone know of a source for 308 suspension upgrades such as thicker sway bars, springs, bushings, etc? My 1st track session in our 77308 GTB on Kuhmo VictorRacers(on original 14" wheels) revealed a ton of roll despite significant lowering of the car due to the lower profile of the tires. It stuck like glue in the tight sections despite the soft suspension but stiffening it surely will help. When the Miata and Honda guys are snickering about the "wallowing Ferrari" it is time to do something. Help!
     
  2. Dave

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    There are a number of "upgrades" that you can do...
    But before you start you might put together a plan of attack
    and make a few decisions about what you want to accomplish with the car,
    like the ratio of street to track time the car will spend for example.
    I also have a 1977 308GTB and it has not seen the track because of the fact that all of the suspension bushings,
    shocks, springs, and such are all crap.
    Not because they were designed that way, but because they are now almost 27 years old.
    If you are tracking your car with R-tires and you have the original suspension components from 26 years ago, you are just asking for trouble IMHO...

    What 26 year old bushings look like.
     
  3. Dave

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    Worn 26 year old bushing...
    Just does not make for good track days.
     
  4. Dave

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    26 year old shock and bushing...
     
  5. Dave

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    It's because of old age in your suspension componets that your Ferrari is wallowing like a pig...
    It sounds like your car could use a good going through.

    Old shock
     
  6. plahaye

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    Good point about the old bushings. Mine do not look quite that bad but replacing them would be the logical place to start. Any thoughts about using hard plastic replacements in lieu of OEM bushings and do you know of a good source for them. About frequency of track use, probably no more than occasional DE type events so handling on the street is more important.
     
  7. Dave

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    You might try this product from Energy Suspension...
     
  8. Dave

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    Try some of the fine sponsors of this site for your parts needs...
     
  9. plahaye

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    I just took a closer look and yes, they are ratty. Time for new a new set of bushings.
     
  10. joeyy

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    be careful not to make the car too stiff the car needs a little bit of roll for the tyres to work properly. unless you plan on using slicks which are NG for the street.
     
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    You might want to give Norwood's a call. They do tons of this kind of stuff.
     
  12. pma1010

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    plahaye
    I use my 308 on the track. I have upgraded to 16 inch rims with stickier tires, replaced all the bushings (control arm, steering, shock, ARB), replaced the shocks, upgraded the rear ARB to an adjustable 15mm/18mm and am looking at a custom front bar.

    Depending on how far you want to go, tradeoffs you are willing to accept, there are many different options to suit the wallet. Suggest you shoot Rob Schemerrhorn an email (sorry Rob, I am sure I butchered the spelling).
     
  13. Dave

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    Got this side licked...
     
  14. Dave

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    another view...
     
  15. Dave

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    One more...
     
  16. pma1010

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    Looks great. I don't know if you track the car, but if so leaving off the backing plates and routing some ducting to the inner hub/inside disc will pay dividends to avoid fade.
    Philip
     
  17. snj5

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    Looks great - very inspiring.
    Guess I need to attack my suspension now!!

    Super job!
    rt
     
  18. Dave

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    From humble beginnings...
     
  19. Dave

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    could use a facelift...
     
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    MMMM crud...
     
  21. Dave

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    this will be fun...
     
  22. Dave

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    it all comes apart...
     
  23. Dave

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    Starts looking good once it goes back together...
     
  24. Dave

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    getting there...
     
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    closer...
     

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