There has been some absolutely fantastic races at Monaco over the years, and unlike most street circuits Monaco is actually really fast and flowing. Love it!, what a challenge! Pete
I used to think that way too until I went to Valencia and had zero visibility thanks to catch fences and no elevation.
True, I completely agree. But, I think it would take more effort than you can imagine to get rid of a Monza race...
Not ANOTHER street circuit, please!! I don't care where it is!! They are so boring and turn up to be 2-hour processions with the order dictated by the positions on the grid. The only interesting bit in a street GP is qualifs, after which it's dead, dead boring! I can just put up with Monaco because of the historical content, but the experience is not to be repeated several times a year. Watching the Historical Monaco GP is more interesting than watching the F1 event; that must tell you something!! When will F1 give up these "Mickey Mouse" tracks and give us proper circuits, not manicured Tilke artificial go-kart inventions that all look the same? We want circuits were cars can speed, overtaking take place, devoid of stupid stop-and-go chicanes.
Yeah, I don't know why they call Valencia a "street circuit" when it plainly isn't. The only similarity is that has walls and not much run offs. But the track does't share any tarmac with road cars so I honestly don't know how they can call it that. So as long as Rome is closer to Monaco or Singapore I'm happy.
While I got frustrated at Valencia this year, my friend went to Singapore and had exactly the same miserable experience: High catch fences and 100 yards of F1 cars going right to left in front of him. Singapore puts on a better show than Valencia, but the viewing experience from the grandstands is equally bad. Monaco is different because there are real elevation changes.
My best friend lives in Rome and was telling me yesterday that there is alot of opposition to this race happening. I'm sure it will happen, as the economic impact is large. But he said that there is alot of opposition due to the chaos and associated costs with infrastructure involved without paralyzing the city. (as if Rome could get anymore chaotic) it will be interesting to see where the track actually is, and of anything develops from this....
I thought the location was a given: In the modern part of town that Mussolini built up. There is a history museum. The whole area is one gigantic monument in concrete to fascism. Some tirewalls and catch fences won't hurt it. Amazing that even in Rome/Italy there is opposition to a F1 race. Then again it doesn't matter what the public thinks or wants as this is Italy...
Not really, there's opposition to F1 racing at Monza in some quarters of Italy these days! (Surely a sign that the world has finally gone mad!)
Mamma mia, porca miseria! Let me guess: The anti car manufacturing socialists and the environmentalists? Those parties drove me mad 20 years ago and out of Europe. <sorry for the political hijack>
Basically yes, plus a number of people who have moved into houses around Monza and aren't happy about the disruption/noise the circuit creates!. In Italy of all places!. Some days I despair of the world I live in!
That's pretty ridiculous, given that the GP is only one weekend per year. I live near a baseball stadium and couldn't care less about baseball but have to put up with its traffic congestions etc. But I don't complain because the stadium was here before I moved here. Given how old Monza's race is, I think very few people would have a right to complain. It's a bit like people moving to an airport because land is cheap and then complain about the noise the planes make. Sorry no.
Tell Me about it, We had some people move into a house next to a church where I live who then started a campaign to stop the church bells ringing!. (they lost in the end!). If I lived by Monza, I'd be proud of all the racing (it'd be part the reason I moved there ) As for a Rome street circuit, I'm not so sure. It sounds abit too much: "Grand Turismo" on the play station for Me. I'd rather they went back to Imola quite frankly (and back to the banking at Monza!, c'mon, I know it'll never happen, but am I the only one who'd like see it?)
I can't post the photo (using my phone); but here is a link to thelayout; http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/05/13/2012-rome-grand-prix-circuit-revealed/
Thanks for the link, here is the layout. It is in the area that I thought it'd be. Image Unavailable, Please Login
I don't think this is the final design. I agree, a lot looks artificial. This is actually the updated design.
Andreas, i actually stumbled on a pic, on the Rome circuit on another forum. The members said (if i'm not wrong), thats it's actually based a bit on the Gran Turismo 2 Rome circuit. I'll post the pic later..
I just can't see the point of it. It's not exactly a race around Rome as you might think it would be, is it?. If they want two races in Italy, why can't they go back to Imola and bring back some proper F1 history?.
Reminds me of the Phoenix race in the early 90s. Personally I would like to see the race in the area of the Colosseum and Circus Maximus.
