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Rosberg 'on par with Vettel' per Berger

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  1. Ferraripilot

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    http://www.motorsport.com/#/F1/article/?id=405608

    Berger stating the above yesterday.

    I am waiting for more of this rhetoric the rest of the year from other great drivers. This begs the question of Nico wanting to be on a team as the #1 driver if he switches teams. As in, he won't want to head to Ferrari because he knows Alonso will be treated as the #1. The problem is I don't think he has a choice when it comes to any of the top teams as all the top teams have a world champion driver running the show. His current position he is sort of #1 but obviously not #1 which I think bothers him a bit although I am sure he has weighed the options and may just be staying put hoping MB puts a great car together.
     
  2. TifosiUSA

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    He would go to Ferrari in a heartbeat.
     
  3. Aircon

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    Well you know, I've been saying all along that if you believe that the reason MS can't beat Nico is because MS is no good, then you're insulting Nico.
     
  4. TifosiUSA

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    +1 and MS did beat him last race :)
     
  5. classic308

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    Between the Marko and Berger comments I'm wondering if the austrians are on something lol....
     
  6. kraftwerk

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    Too hard to judge his real pace, but I would put him on par with Button Webber on a good day.
     
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    Maybe on a good day, but I don't think he has the consistency of a Button. I've always seen Rosberg in the same company as Webber and Massa (prior to Hockenheim last year, when Felipe seemed to fall off completely as a competitor), meaning he's fast enough to win it all, but missing that one extra element that would put him over the top.
     
  8. Russ Birch

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    You hit the nail on the head. Rosberg has intermittent blips of stardom, but can't seem to string together a consistent set.
     
  9. Ferraripilot

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    The only way to really know is to have him in an excellent car. Anything until then is conjecture as his performance is completely limited to if MB manages to hit the small setup window for W02 which makes it perform somewhat well for him. MS is subjective to the same thing, only for him it has been more difficult getting the car setup correctly :/
     
  10. rmani

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    i think nico + ferrari has the makings of another dominant team
     
  11. VIZSLA

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    Nico is that better a driver than Alonso?
     
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    definitely not, but I like Nico and get see him developing into one of the greats if he's with the right team. Imagine if he could learn from schumacher and then alonso and then take over as the lead driver in 4 or 5 years
     
  13. VIZSLA

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    He's been around quite a while already. I respect him highly but seasoning is not going to help him lift his game at this point.
     
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    #14 tifosi12, May 26, 2011
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    No way.

    Nico is good, but not top. He'll make a good #2 next to Alonso or Vettel. At any rate he is certainly lightyears better than Massa.

    As for Berger's comment: That's coming from the guy who considered himself just as good as Senna. Nuff said.
     
  15. VIZSLA

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    Has Nico's day passed? Is it too late for him to be a legitimate #1 on a first rate team?
     
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    Probably.

    He was a star when he arrived on the scene and had ok cars over the years, yet never managed to be consistent. Some great moments and then flat line for several races.

    I guess everybody expected him to be a walk over by MS, yet the opposite happened. So right now he might be viewed in the best light.

    Whether he will ever be #1 in a top car depends a bit on the competition. As long as there is Vettel/Hamilton/Alonso around, he won't get the #1 seat in those teams. That makes his choice the 4th fastest car on the grid and in my book that's the beginning of the midfield.

    Then again, somebody might get injured and suddenly a top seat becomes available. I definitely think he is better than Webber/Massa and possibly Button (not sure there).
     
  17. Ferraripilot

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    I'll definitely wager this one. If Nico is with Ferrari, I would wager Nico would be evenly matched with Zo. Both are great drivers and I believe the only thing that would seperate them would be how their particular driving styles play at certain tracks. Otherwise I don't see one being better than the other.
     
  18. tifosi12

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    Kinda depends on when this pairing will happen. If we are talking about 2012 or 2013 then I'm game for a case of beer that Alonso will beat Nico in WDC points by the end of the year (assuming both drivers get to drive equal amounts of races during those seasons).

    Beyond 2013 the tide might turn as Alonso is not getting any younger.
     
  19. Aircon

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    Really? Button? wow...big call!
     
  20. CRG125

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    I think being at williams for so long has hurt Nico's chances of driving for a top team. I don't see anyone's seat becoming vacant anytime soon at Ferrari, Mclaren and Redbull. Ferrari won't let Massa go as Alonso relationship with him is very good along with the whole team. Plus Massa has accepted he will always be number 2 at Ferrari. The only seat that is a possibility is Webber seat. Otherwise, Mercedes better get their **** togehter quick or they will become another Honda and Toyota.
     
  21. VIZSLA

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    You may well be right but given his track record there isn't much to support it.
     
  22. tifosi12

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    I think they never were anything but.
     
  23. CRG125

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    I would agree with Andreas. Rosberg has consistently out perform MS. Button had a hard time towards the end of 2009 beating Barrichello. He also had a difficult time with Fisichella and Sato who are considered second rate drivers. Rosberg has always been faster than his teammates.
     
  24. VIZSLA

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    Jensen has consistently raced "smarter" than his team mates.
     
  25. tifosi12

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    Thanks. All of the above plus:

    I don't rate Button highly. I still think he somewhat "lucked" into his WDC (good for him, he stood by Brawn GP when it all looked like it was nothing but a crap shoot) with having a car that was better than the rest. Not unlike Damon Hill's title year.
     

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