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Rosberg: Whiner or just an immature child?

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  1. mikelfrance

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    Whining: When someone moans, pouts, or mugs their displeasure endlessly because they don't get what they think they deserve instead of actually doing something to prove themselves correct.

    Immature child: Having outbreaks of childish behavior below their class in a sport or society.

    I think yesterday showed the lowest part of sportsmanship for a teammate and, in turn, his own team. You may have issues but its one thing to show it in public in a degrading way when he's getting millions from the team and sponsorship $$$$.

    I lost all respect for the guy. Who would want Rosberg as a teammate or on their "team"?

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  2. rmani

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    Trashing your team mate in public is always unwise.

    Rosberg has more fans simply because they want him to beat lewis than because of his own abilities (which are quite high i might add).
     
  3. daytona355

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    I think with all the BS he has had to put up with from Elton and the tram itself, supporting Elton and expecting Nico to play nice and never complain, Elton is lucky he didn't hit him with the champagne bottle, rather than some soppy hat.

    I think Nico generally shows remarkable restraint, and on the day he lost his chance of the championship, however small, why does anyone expect him to be smiling?
     
  4. Bas

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    It must not be nice to be Rosberg since Spa 2014. The reaction his team gave him for doing something Hamilton has done many times before, and the bias they have for Hamilton (in that he can do no wrong, the wry smiles when Rosberg makes a mistake and the taking away from any victory he has by only talking about Lewis and how he lost it due to whatever they can think of to make it seem it was not Hamiltons fault).

    Sure he gets paid millions, but that's beside the point.

    That said, Rosberg sure has not made it easy for himself by letting Hamilton bully him and constantly rolling over. He has made many big words in the press time and time again, saying that he will play the same games but everytime Lewis comes near him the same trick gets played again, hamilton sticks his nose in (or more) and rosberg is done. If Rosberg learns to use the same tactics, Hamilton will be weary of forcing his way through. So what if Totonator and Lauda ridicule him in public, or even fire him....he'll be having a huge paycheck if they sack him, but he'll able to leave with some dignity, knowing he stood up for himself.

    The hat throwing thing is overplayed. Hamilton chucked it first in a certain manner. I'd be grumpy too if my teammate could ram me out of the way with no reaction from the bossman.
     
  5. DF1

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    Whiner or child - which F1 driver at some point is not.....
     
  6. toil

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    Vettel did it to Kimi. Versrsppen did it to Kimi. Only an issue when Lewis does it though lol...


    Far different to spa where nico admitted he could have avoided it but chose not to in order to make a point.

    Rosberg was not going to win the title anyway. It was a harsh move yes and if I'm honest he gave nico no space whatsoever to turn in. Versus someone from another team that's fine but with team mates you would expect more courtesy. However, Given what nico has done to ham last year he doesn't deserve that courtesy.


    Rosbergs attitude is not good for the team though and if he keeps this whining up then he should expect to look for a drive elsewhere
     
  7. DF1

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    Brundle see's "hat spat" this way - At the same time I don't blame Nico Rosberg pre-podium for not appreciating having a second position cap slung across the room at him while he's quietly sitting and trying to come to terms with having just thrown away a race victory and handing the world championship over. To his team-mate. Honestly, how would you have reacted?

    Martin Brundle on how F1 and Lewis Hamilton came out on top in America | F1 News
     
  8. st@ven

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    Rosberg attitute is TO GOOD for the team. He might not be the best driver but he's surly behaves pretty mature normally. More mature than muxh of the other drivers when beaten or played hard.
     
  9. classic308

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    Way overplayed....nico to hammy is the same as webber to seb & Reuben to schumey. Good solid driver but just not good enuf to take it to the next level. Too many unforced errors....
     
  10. tifosi12

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    Hamilton destroyed Rosberg.

    He is done.
     
  11. ScuderiaRossa

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    Although, if he had shown some teeth from day one then I think LH and the team for that matter would have treated him differently. Do you think LH could have pulled Sunday's stunt on Daniel Ricciardo? No way...
     
  12. classic308

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    I like Ricci lots. Always smiling-kinda like a great white shark...
     
  13. 4rePhill

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    Nico needs to grow a pair, stop running off track to jump out of Hamilton's way every time he comes up the inside of him (as he did in Japan - Austin was a little different as he was actually physically barged out of the way in turn 1 by Hamilton), and show Hamilton that he won't be bullied on track anymore!

    If he held his ground more often then yes, chances are they'll end up colliding and be out of races now and again, but at least it would show Hamilton that he can't just stuff it up the inside any more because the price to pay would be too high!

    Hamilton has treated Nico with complete disdain at times!

    For example, the way that he threw the second place cap at Nico after the last GP, was as if he was throwing his dog a bone and saying: "Know your place!"

    It was also made obvious when he stated that he hoped Ferrari would make a good step forward soon so that he could enjoy some wheel to wheel racing with Seb, completely overlooking his team mate as someone to race wheel to wheel with, as though Nico's not worthy of his attention!

    At the end of the day, Nico's too nice and too soft for his own good!

    Do you think if it were Mad Max in the second Mercedes that he'd jump out of Hamilton's way? - I seriously doubt it!

    There'd be tears at bedtime! - And it wouldn't be Mad Max who would be crying either! ;)
     
  14. DF1

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    That clearly applies to Kimi. Couldn't dominate Massa.......LOL!
     
  15. spirot

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    Rosberg clearly has been damaged psychologically I do think he is rather done. I dont see how he can recover at Mercedes and If I'm Lauda or Wolf, I'd be thinking who do we need to bring in to take over from Hamilton in the future... the Rosberg seat is being wasted.

    Rosberg is a bit petulant, and emotional. It has to be hard though to hear all the boo's when he walks on the podium, I dont think he deserves that.

    As for the first corner - I think is was actually Hamiltons - he was on the inside, and Rosberg could have pulled an over under on him had he been slightly behind him... but none the less Hamilton out drove Rosberg.

    Rosberg only has him self to blame for throwing away the race... he had a good lead that would have held had he not gone off.. i know worn tires damp surface etc... but it was the same for Hamilton... I'd have to now say that Hamilton is the better driver of the two.

    But I still think if you but any of the other drivers in the Mercedes you would still see dominating performance - its the car much more than the drivers.

    where As Vettel and Riakkonnen have shown real driving - even Riccardo drove a great race untill intermediates went away... the real drive at COTA was Vettle...
     
  16. Banzai!

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    I'm not a big Nico fan but I agree, since SPA last year Nico seems to be on the teams leash. More and more it appears they favor Lewis, however I must believe they would ultimately favor whichever of the two is dominating. Unfortunately for Nico, he seems to back off when Lewis bullies him, possibly to avoid backlash from the team. All drivers are selfish for sucess and I believe circimstances came to a culmination for Nico last weekend. How Nico races Lewis in the remaining races will be interesting. Already, the team is recognizing this and admitting they need to address the situation.

    I'm sure Lewis will still be focused on adding to his win list but with the title now secure and in the record books, he might not have the same level of killer attitude. I believe Nico needs to shop himself around now, the Mercedes dominance will end just like every other team's in the past. It sure looked like Wolf and Lauda were amused at his misfortune and did anyone else notice the extreme stink eye Paddy gave Nico after he tossed the hat back? Looked like he was about to start virbriating!
     
  17. P.Singhof

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    Yes, Rosberg is done...But this is exacly what Lauda and Wolff want...A fast driver that is able to get the second place but nobody that really challenges Hamilton. That way they can play sportsmen letting them drive without having the same issue as Hamilton/Alonso where the two take away points from each other. Lauda and Wolff exactly got the driver they made out of Rosberg...
    Hamilton could do the first corner because he knew there would be no real challenge from Rosberg. As I mentioned before: imagine Hamilton trying this with one like Senna....They would still look for all the carbon parts all over the track
    Again correct..But one should still not forget that Rosberg had bad luck with two safety cars, otherwise Hamilton would have been no challenge that race and Rosberg would never had been forced into this mistake. No excuse but still fact.
     
  18. E60 M5

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    I got no bone in this fight, but if he (Hamilton) had tossed a hat at me while I'm reflecting on another season lost, I would have decked him.

    I will say, Rosberg, should have shown a more class on the podium, but then again, if it had been me, neither of us would be on the podium if my team mate tried pushing me off the road in turn 1, he would have been shredded.

    They are both babies.
     
  19. Igor Ound

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    Nico is still paying for the one time he stood up to Hamilton on track. Great thread btw. Would love to see how it'd be received if it was directed at Hamilton.
     
  20. tifosi12

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    Agreed.

    Lauda the computer at his best.
     
  21. ScuderiaRossa

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    Nico whines out of the car, Lewis while he's in it...
     
  22. Igor Ound

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    It could still all unravel quickly for Lewis at Merc. We've seen it before
     
  23. furoni

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    Nope, nico is mentaly destroyed, he's no good at Mercedes now, maybe, if Merc looses the edge over Ferrari and more drivers come into play he can regain some confidence, but Toto and Niki pretty much have ruined him.
     
  24. singletrack

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    Bucket of truth here.

    Most of these guys are children when they come into F1. Tons of money and everyone catering to you tends to intensify existing behavior rather than correct it.

    Racing, in general, is a bit childish. A lot of noise, risk, money, and pollution to end up in the same place you started and accomplish nothing that actually helped anyone. Sometimes half naked women involved.

    I love racing.
     
  25. singletrack

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    He just comes across as weak to me honestly. I would have a lot more respect for him if he got in Hamilton's face and told him what he thought about turn 1. You have to be prepared for the consequences though...probably being fired by Merc.

    Either way, he lost the race all on his own, and turn 1 ultimately ended up being irrelevant.

    Merc F1 team is a passive aggressive warzone.
     

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