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RPM FACE COLOR CHANGES--the whole process--LOTS of pics

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  1. Ebaeza

    Ebaeza Karting

    May 14, 2007
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    Hello and thanks for this great post!

    I followed the instructions but I obviously did something wrong... the rev dial is not properly aligned. It was aligned when I placed the cluster back into its place, but I then started the car and it moved back for aproximately 1 cm.

    I have to open it all up again this wekeend and set it right, but please Brokenarrow let me know how to make the rev dial stay a 0. thanks!
     
  2. Spider360Matt

    Spider360Matt Formula Junior

    Mar 14, 2012
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    Dan you got the last set of 430 needles on the planet I think...would love to find me a set of those. FCA didnt have them and when I ping they dont respond now...must be busy. It really does the finish right!
     
  3. F1rossa

    F1rossa Karting

    Nov 26, 2011
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    Let me see what i can do for you..I'll keep you posted.
    D
     
  4. Sled Driver

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  5. bisel

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    #155 bisel, Feb 21, 2013
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    I obtained my tach face from Ricambi ... they gave a 10% discount for FerrariChat members. The instructions on this forum are excellent and I was able to perform the mod without any drama. Painted the underside of the needles using Model Master Fluorescent red enamel model paint. Results are good.

    Some points I experienced:

    1. Follow instructions in this forum. Take your time and be meticulous.

    2. If painting your needles, I found the paint I used (enamel) is a bit translucent. Had to put three coats on for coverage. One might want to see if they can get an acrylic paint as will likely provide better coverage and will dry faster. When you apply paint to back of needle, it is difficult to keep the paint off the sides of the needle, but no worries ... if you get a bit of paint on side of needle (as I did), just gently scrape the paint with your finger nail as that will not scratch the needle and you can get the paint off very easily. When you insert the needle back into the hub, I was in too big hurry inserting the needles into the hub piece and messed up the finish. Had to scrape paint off and re-do it. I found with enamel had to let dry at least 24 hours.

    3. Also with painting the needles ... when you scrape off the old white paint, take your time and use a magnifying glass to ensure you get every last bit of white paint off. I did not try to use fine grit wet and dry, but you might try that as well. If you leave any bit of white paint on the back of the needle, it will make appear as streaks in the red paint that you apply.

    4. The Ricambi tach face is opaque and numerals glow at night. I think there a couple of other sources for the tach face and I think at least one of these the entire tach face is illuminated using back lighting. I am not sure, but I would be concerned if you source one of those you might experience the "pac-man" appearance using the standard 360 back lighting. Do your research.

    Lastly, if any 360 owners in the Phoenix area want to undertake this, PM me. I can offer additional advice and assistance if you like. No charge.

    Steve
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  6. rob4092xx

    rob4092xx Formula Junior

    Mar 8, 2010
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    Can't get any of the links to open. Can anyone tell me how much the Yellow 360 Tach face with the horsie is???? Where to get???? Thanks!
     
  7. bisel

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    Hi Rob,

    Try this ... Clock Faces

    They have both the metric and English version. You have to get the entire kit for £175 ($262). In some respects I like their version, but I prefer the Ricambi (but sans the horse) for night time view

    Steve
     
  8. rob4092xx

    rob4092xx Formula Junior

    Mar 8, 2010
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    Thanks Steve! I couldn't get my Internet Explorer to open any links last night. Works fine now...go figure!
     
  9. rob4092xx

    rob4092xx Formula Junior

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  10. bisel

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    That looks severely overpriced. ProSport Ferrari in the UK has the full set on their website for $262.

    Here is the URL link to their site ...
    Clock Faces

    That listing on eBay would not be bargain.

    Steve
     
  11. calsito

    calsito Rookie

    Jun 8, 2005
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    I just finished and had one problem! The RPM needle won't move, the new yellow face guages is to thick. I had to leave the window framing out, otherwise it was to thick?
    Or did I had to glue around the needle???
    Thanks, greetings Paul
     
  12. Jackattack

    Jackattack Rookie

    Nov 29, 2012
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    Hi Guys,

    I'm the proud new owner of a beautiful 2001 F360 Siper here in Melbourne Australia.

    I want to change the tach from standard black to the 430 style yellow tach - but I'm confused - and here's why:

    Many have spoken about the part from Ricambi "that includes the Ferrari Horse logo" (Cavallino) on the tach, but the picture on Ricambi's site does NOT contain the horse on the tach.

    Call me obsessive but if I'm going to change the tach to yellow it's just got to have the Ferrari logo on the tach. GOTTA!!!

    Any suggestions or information would be very much appreciated.

    Regards,

    Jackattack
     
  13. bisel

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    I wonder if you correctly aligned the needle when you reinstalled the needle? I had no problem with mine.

    Steve

     
  14. calsito

    calsito Rookie

    Jun 8, 2005
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    Oke, I’ll try to reinstall it. So you don't glue it?
     
  15. bisel

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    Ricambi does not do the horse, but you can purchase a little horse on eBay in chrome and wih a bit of glue, you have the horse. Some people have done this with success.

    ProSport in UK has gauge faces with the horse, but they are the Stradale style not the 430.

    Steve

     
  16. bisel

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    No glue. There are two small protrusions on the back of the small rubber center cup. The needle has matching holes and the protrusions embed in the holes. They then embed in the small holes in the top of the gauge actuator and when you gently press it down should kind of snap in place. This assures that the needle is correctly aligned and you should have clearance to allow free movement.

    Steve

     
  17. calsito

    calsito Rookie

    Jun 8, 2005
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    Thanks Steve, I'll try it again.
    Greatings from Holland :)
     
  18. Ricambi America

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    #168 Ricambi America, Mar 12, 2013
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    A fellow Fchatter sent me a handful of these little tiny horses that he uses for model building. They look pretty cool on the tachometer face, and I suspect a wee blob of adhesive would hold them nicely in place.

    I don't have a way (or desire) to inventory or sell the horses, but I'll include them at no charge with tach panels. Use them however you like.
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  20. datatelcabling@aol.com

    Apr 11, 2013
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    I know this was posted awhile ago but I was wondering were you bought your Yellow/Red Faces? Thank you for taking so much time and documenting your Dash Removal and Tach replacment procedure. A shop in So Cal wants $3,200.00 to remove my dash and recover it...OOucchhh! According to your Post it should only take half a day to remove it and probably half a day to install it. With your info, I think I'm going to give it a try. Thanks, Larry
     
  21. spiderscott

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    Hi Larry

    They sell the faces on ebay or if not go directly to Prosport ferrari here in the UK

    Time wise ive now removed and installed mine so many times i reckon i could have the dash out, faces changed and bolted back in place in around 1 hour, its a fairly easy job.
     
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  23. captglen

    captglen Formula 3
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    What size led bulbs do you use to replace in the dash ?
    How many led's are there to replace ??

    Just to make sure I get this right, scrap off the white underside of each needle and repaint with translucent red ??
    Do not paint the top part ?
    I want the needles to be in red during day and glow red at night/
    How does it show red if you do not paint the top part red
    Thanks for this great write up
     
  24. Pwcpro785

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    #174 Pwcpro785, Aug 13, 2013
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    When scraping the needles be sure not to gouge or scratch the underside. Any defects on the back side of the needles are amplified, after painting, when seen through the front.

    I polished the back of my needles with a dremel polishing wheel before painting them. This got rid of small scratches or anything else that would be amplified after install.

    I used this paint someone here recommended and love the way it came out.

    Also: I placed a dab of 'Shoe Goo' under the faces to hold them in place. It's great for this application because it remains flexible and is removable.
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  25. English Rebel

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    I picked up my yellow face from Daniel at Ricambi yesterday and intend to install it this week. In the instructions at the start of this thread, you are told to remove the plastic lenses. Why is that necessary as it seems as if the complete plastic shroud and lenses are attached to the gauge cluster with four screws?
    Thanks
    Alan
     

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