Rubbish paint again

Don't know, but it's water-based and looks like it goes on really thin. Weight savings maybe ;-)

 

The triple layer paints, like all "special" paints, are done off-site by Carrozzeria Zanasi and not at the factory. That's why they are finished at a much higher standard.

A car at this level should not require paint correction first thing out of the factory. That's for sure.

 

Ferrari are poorly made. my kids understand that.

quelle surprise!

 

Hey, it's Italian. Be happy you got that engine for such a great price!

 

yeah exactly.

 

Very disappointing. I saw a FF at a dealer in what I think to be same colour with orange peal down the whole side.

One would think these things would be picked up at the factory during final inspection....

 

"It's Italian" is probably the best marketing/sales/service slogan to respond back some inferior unacceptable aspects of Italian cars.

Of course, styling and most of the engineering outweigh the deficiencies. But to me, it is still unacceptable. When I show my displeasure to my excellent shop/dealer, I get "it's Italian", and what sometimes frost me more, that I am one of the very few customers that notice. Guess getting too old, and should just move on and enjoy the car. Or as stated earlier, can get a special / vintage paint color and spend the 12K to 20K more for my level of quality paint.

 

Is there another ethnic slur that is as widely accepted?
Someone says that to me and they'll get called out on it.

 

Im sorry this happened to you. Simon is right.

Its the underlying paint and the cc just enhances the issue. You can smooth out the cc by removing some of the cc, but then the cc is thinner. Most modern cars have some degree of orange peel and I have noticed it getting worse on just about all of them. The British cars actually seem to be the best. But which one do you want to actually drive....

 

I'll make a suggestion made previously. A group of say 20 recent owners who have had paint problems send a respectful letter to Lucca, calling attention to the problem and expressing concern as Ferrari owners and enthusiasts. There is a good chance that will get action.

 

It is EXTREMELY rare for Ferrari owners to criticise the fit and finish (or any other aspect) of their cars. People are so grateful for the supposed "privilege of ownership" they'll make all sorts of excuses for the quality of the product.
It is only with people like yourself Tim, that owners will get a better product.
The more discerning YOU are, the better the product the next owner gets.

Well done for rejecting it. Tell 'em that for £270,000 they should f****** paint it properly.

 

Traveller, must have checked the option box , to get the "paint by Sears refrigerator dept."! That's so it won't show fingerprints. Did Ferrari sub-contact their paints jobs to....Earl Scheib? And with so many cars with such bad paint, being handed off to the retail customers, what are the Ferrari dealer's doing, as part of the "final dealer prep"? Checking to see if the car has 4 tires?

 

When you ordered the paint did you check the box which says "industriale martello finitura" (industrial hammer finish) ? Just kidding. It certainly is unacceptable. I've done a lot of amateur painting over the years and I don't think I've ever sprayed orange peel that bad. As others have pointed out, this will not simply buff out. It's a real shame because the time to do paint work is BEFORE the car is assembled, not after. I hope it comes out OK.

 

What is the technical reason behind that ?

The quality of the paint ?

The way the paint is applied on the panels ?

Other ?

 

Ferrari should take a close look at the Lexus paint process. I have never seen better paint work on any production car then on a Lexus. Their flag ship sedans are all hand wet sanded and polished before they leave the factory, and once again clay bared at the dealer before they even go into the show room.

 

They're pre-patinaed.

 

Wikipedia has a pretty good blurb about orange peel:

Orange peel (effect) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Basically it's caused by one or more factors including incorrect adjustment of the paint gun, incorrect viscosity of the paint, incorrect thinner (fast dry, slow dry, etc.), or incorrect technique. Orange peel is not always easy to completely avoid. But it can be done, at least for the most part. Some of my past efforts have produced paint jobs completely free of orange peel but I have never actually accomplished a completely defect free paint job. Turning off the compressor is not the last step in a good paint job.

As you might imagine, spraying paint under less than perfect conditions can result in surface contamination either before, during, or after spraying the paint causing bumps, "fish eye" and other surface defects.

Of course, incorrect prep work can lead to all sorts of additional defects and problems either immediately or in the future, some not immediately obvious.

Producing a perfect paint job "right out of the gun" is very difficult using the best of the "old school" techniques I'm familiar with. When it comes to production robot painting, I'm not so sure but judging from the OP's photos, a great paint job is certainly not automatic even for Ferrari.

In the past my best paint jobs have involved quite a bit of very careful and tedious sanding of the finish coat followed by a lot of compounding and buffing. How much of that goes on at Ferrari these days, I have no idea.

But what I can say is that whoever did the paint on my 13 year old 360 Modena did a lot of very good hand work somewhere along the line. I think it was the factory, but I don't know for sure. As far as hand work on the OP's car is concerned,.............. things have obviously changed.

 

Thanks for the very useful post. I learned some things.

As expected, you have to sweat the details to get a nice paint job.

I have owned 4 FCars, dating from model year 1980. Each one's paint job was not as good as the previous one. Although my current 458 is acceptable, it pales compared to the Glasurit lacquer finish on my old 512BB. That had no orange peel at all and was like a red telescope mirror.

 

Mozella : Thank you fir this very complete and very helpful answer.

 

I don't understand how; 1. This left the factory, and 2. How the dealer called you to pick it up. I now feel bad for dismissing the Mayors thread. They better get it together over there or they'll be cutting production again, and not by choice.