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  1. nbenz

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    #1 nbenz, May 31, 2012
    Took it for a ride today and the temperature stayed around 180 even at speed in 75 degree weather. Plenty of antifreeze, could it be water pump? How can I check?
     
  2. troy_wood

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    #2 troy_wood, May 31, 2012
    I'd check first that both fans are coming on. If that checked out I would then check for a stuck thermostat. You would hear a seized pump or one with bad bearings...
     
  3. bobzdar

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    #3 bobzdar, May 31, 2012
    180F? If so, that's normal...
     
  4. 2NA

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    #4 2NA, May 31, 2012
    Within the normal range.
     
  5. MicroFirm

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    #5 MicroFirm, May 31, 2012
    Mine runs at 190 or slightly below all the time.
     
  6. F355steve

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    #6 F355steve, May 31, 2012
    Sounds normal to me too. 180 isn't that warm for coolent.
     
  7. Extreme

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    #7 Extreme, May 31, 2012
    Mine is always around 190 F degrees.
    Sounds right on the money to me.
     
  8. ernie

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    #8 ernie, May 31, 2012
    180º is normal.
     
  9. Docopp

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    #9 Docopp, May 31, 2012
    I put in hyperflow cats...
    temperature dropped 15 degrees !!!!
    Before, with stock cats, my gas cop would get hot, very hot to touch, now not even warm.
     
  10. nbenz

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    #10 nbenz, Jun 1, 2012
    wow, my was running in the 160 range when on the highway, then would only get to 190 when stuck at a light for a while. Just yesterday I noticed it would not go lower then 180 and stayed close to 190 the whole time. Fans work, I can hear them kick on once near 190. I tried going faster, but that did not work, I will just try to keep driving faster.


    Thanks...
     
  11. Mitch Alsup

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    #11 Mitch Alsup, Jun 1, 2012
    180dF is actually lower than desired, especially if/when the oil temp is also down that low. Some of the additive/anti-wear package in oils do not start to work until the oil is above 200dF.

    But, my car with its previous thermostat would run this cold (thermostatic lower limit) with the new thermostat it tends to run no cooler than 195dF.
     
  12. White Knight

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    #12 White Knight, Jun 1, 2012
    Sounds fine to me. Mine tends to run on the cool side unless I get going for an hour or two of spirited driving, then things will run around 180 F and 200-210 F for the oil
     
  13. FDT

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    #13 FDT, Jun 1, 2012
    180 is when the condensation starts to really boil off. It is normal
     
  14. nbenz

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    #14 nbenz, Jun 3, 2012
    So what would be considered a high temperature to be worried about overheating?
     
  15. bobzdar

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    #15 bobzdar, Jun 3, 2012
    I'd probably start to be concerned at 220 and make a move to get off the road and let it cool down. Red looks like 240 ish which is where it will start to overheat and where I'd pull over and shut it down. I've never seen mine go over 195, but it seems to get to 190-195 whenever I'm stuck in traffic. If it hit 220, I'd probably take the next exit or stop at the next gas station. If it hit 240, I'd pull over immediately and shut it down.
     
  16. LouB747

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    #16 LouB747, Jun 3, 2012
    Sounds like we were talking water temp, and now possibly oil temp.....
     
  17. marcov

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    #17 marcov, Jun 3, 2012
    Mine was running a little hot and the fans whould always be ON. I found that my antifreeze/water ratio was (60/40). I did a coolant flush and reduced the antifreeze/water ratio to 40/60. The running temperature dropped drasticly.
     
  18. nbenz

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    #18 nbenz, Jun 4, 2012
    Put on the Challenge grill today and it lowered the temps a lot. I have never seen mine over about 192, so I assume I am good. Thanks all.
     
  19. mj_duell

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    #19 mj_duell, Jun 4, 2012
    Mine runs 190 all day. 180 is normal.

    --Mike
     
  20. gothspeed

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    #20 gothspeed, Jun 4, 2012
    +1 ........ going down to 160° F is not good, it shows thermostat may be stuck open, which would affect the ECU's ability to properly administer A/F ratio. That lower temp reading may cause a rich condition (ECU thinks engine is cool) and the extra fuel would kill the cats.
     
  21. nbenz

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    #21 nbenz, Jun 5, 2012
    cats what cats? Once I put the gothspeed exhaust in did the fabspeed headers and test pipes. The sound it unreal. Seems to be running constant 180-190, so looks like I am good now.
     
  22. Extreme

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    #22 Extreme, Jun 5, 2012
    I noticed something yesterday. It was 94 degrees Fahrenheit and the car was reading 190 -210 on my drive. It gets up to 210 sometimes when sitting at a stop light before the fan kicks on. What I thought was strange is when water temp gauge was reading 190 degrees I shut the car off and the temp would then climb up to 210 when I checked it just a short time later.

    Why would the water temp rise after the car is shut down?
     
  23. MicroFirm

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    #23 MicroFirm, Jun 5, 2012
    It would rise from latent heat in the engine and no air or water flow to the radiators to dissipate it. I would think that's normal.
     

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