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RX-8: My Opinion and Jeremy Clarkson's

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  1. karmavore

    karmavore Formula 3

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    I test drove one this weekend and it was a blast. Very comfy, VERY smooth, and pretty quick even with my girl and the salesman.

    Problem is, it's quite garish. Japanese bling and form over function everywhere. I'd never buy one because of it.

    Top Gear had a similar review this week, but the remarkable thing was that it tied the M3 around their track! That impresses.

    What do you guys think?

    Luke.
     
  2. Doody

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    i loved my Rx7 III. it's the only car i no longer own that i wish i hadn't sold.

    i awaited the 8 quite anxiously to see how they could better the 7 III.

    however i've ended up in your camp. totally uninterested in the 8 :(.

    doody.
     
  3. rob lay

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    I'm crazy about the RX-8. Of course I'm a big RX-7 fan. I love them and even went to the dealership last week to look at them. The local dealer says they're selling 25 a week! I'm not in the financial position to get one now. Maybe in a couple years. The RX-8 will get a turbo after the Miata does and word is there will be a new kick ass RX-7.

    When it comes down to it, no matter how much I love the Mazda's, I love Ferrari that much more. For $32k you could get into a $40-60k Ferrari at the same final cost. I would be tempted to even stretch to a 456 over a RX-8.
     
  4. karmavore

    karmavore Formula 3

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    Huh, how..?? weighing depreciation? what happens when you weigh maintenance over, say, four years?

    Doody - I'm with you. I've been following the 8 for two and a half years sine the first prototype. Imagine my disappointment when it kept getting uglier and uglier. Its too bad.

    Luke.
     
  5. Doody

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    dude - you seriously gotta lay off the kool-aid :).

    put the glass down. step back. take five deep breaths.

    okay, feel better?

    :)

    doody.
     
  6. karmavore

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    LOL. :)
     
  7. rob lay

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    In past 3 years my Ferrari has dropped in value only $2k. Any new $32k car would of dropped at least $12k. Go out 5+ years and it gets even better. My BMW has cost me twice the money of the 328 in the past 3 years maintenance wise. I don't understand why more people don't
    "get it".
     
  8. karmavore

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    This has become a different thread but...

    I don't think people should say my X exotic requires 1/Y the maintenance of my Z normal daily driver. That's misleading, potentially. How about saying:

    X costs Y/mile of weekend cruising
    Z costs W/mile of stop and go grocery getting

    Luke.
     
  9. Doody

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    realistically speaking, i think your experience is anomalous, rob. i guess i'd suggest you think long and hard before you take your data points and apply them to a 456.

    doody.
     
  10. ryalex

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    I think the car looks great until you get to the back end of the roof... I can't stand those suicide doors - just screams "Saturn." I thought the interior was nice.

    Tied the M3? That's surprising, since they keep lowering the '240' horses down and down as it turns out dynos are reporting they don't have quite that much. What's the weight on it?
     
  11. ILuv4Res

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    Isn't Mazda getting sued or something for misstating the HP in the new RX-8????
     
  12. ryalex

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    From what I've heard on other boards, they've settled most of those by giving free service and warranty extensions... I'd be PO'ed if I bought a car under the impression it had 250hp(or 240), when it's really only like 228... it's a negligent difference for some (read: non-car enthusiasts), but for a 'car guy' you might as well find out it has 100hp.
     
  13. ILuv4Res

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    I thought I heard/read something about that.

    It's an interesting issue. You would guess people who bought the car test drove it and found the power acceptable regardless of what was printed in the brochures. Finding out it has less HP doesn't make it drive any differently, only eliminates some bragging rights and/or comparisons. Hard to quantify damages unless you calculate $ per HP. However, that said, I guess I would be upset too.
     
  14. karmavore

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    Mazda was pretty stand up on this. Either you can keep the car and get free service and like $500 bucks, or you can return it for a full refund.

    Refunded cars will be sold to Mazda employees at a big discount.

    Luke.
     
  15. ILuv4Res

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    Nice to see a car manufacturer standing by its customers to make things right. So many others turn the other way and try to avoid doing anything.
     
  16. BigDog

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    From my experience with the RX-8 (though limited), it's a nice car to have, but it's somewhat gaudy looks seem to detract. Also, it just doesn't really give me that "feeling" that I'd get with say an M3.
     
  17. rob lay

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    I drove a RX-8 for the first time last night.

    I love the looks, the handling, the brakes, the sporty feel inside, the 6 speed, and the 8.5k redline.

    The power didn't overwhelm me, but my friends car only has 650 miles on it. I was only hitting 6k RPMs or so.
     
  18. Auraraptor

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    RX8 - Too narrow and too tall. Look at a streched and lowered RX8 and we are talking quite attractive.

    Side from that its pretty good.
     
  19. Gary(SF)

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    I think I don't believe it is as quick around a track as the M3, unless it's a go-kart track.

    Gary
     
  20. rob lay

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    The handling and braking on this car are just awesome. I think a much lighter car too.

    That's why I can drive my 115 RWHP 1st gen Rx7 around a track faster than street 355's. I do 2:04's at TWS http://www.spec7.org/videos/TWS2_04_5lap2003.mpg and 1:29 flat at MSR http://www.spec7.org/videos/20040307_SRX7_MSR_1_29_25.mpg.

    Weight, handling, and braking are needed just as much as HP for a track. Not saying a BMW isn't a good example of a car that handles really well. My 170 RWHP BMW 325is can eat several cars with more HP on the track.

    I guess my answer is I don't know between a M3 and RX-8, but it's possible at least.
     
  21. ChrisfromRI

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    Raced against an RX-8 two times last season with my S2000 in B Stock Solo2. Beat him twice, but only by a few tenths...

    Kind Regards, Chris
     
  22. jordan747_400

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    I jsut test drove a couple today. The 6 speed was pretty fast. I scared the salesman in it though. First turn out of the lot I kicked the tail out for a nice slide and reved it up to 9k rpm! I think he got a kick out of it though :)

    The automatic one wasnt nearly as fast, but it had some paddle shifters which were pretty fun.
     

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