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SA Aperta - Why build only 80?

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  1. Maximus

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    The SA Aperta One-to-One ;)
     
  2. 15hn

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    Anyone got any pics of cars without the xx/80 plaque? Maybe the evans/goodwood car didn't have it?
     
  3. jtremlett

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    I have checked my pictures of Chris Evans' car very carefully and I am 99% sure it doesn't. It has a "Champion" plate where the plaque in your picture is to the left of the steering wheel. On the radio(?) cover it just says "limited edition 1 of 80".

    Jonathan
     
  4. 15hn

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    #29 15hn, Oct 24, 2011
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    Saw a black Aperta in Berkeley Square, London today. Tan interior and on the rear bench it had some embroidery saying 76 of 80 (i think). Number plate 4MC.
     
  5. Drive550PFB

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    I was told the number will be over 100.
     
  6. PAP 348

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    My friend would kill to own that SA Aperta. :cool::cool:
     
  7. Miura Jota

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    I'd like to suggest the replacement won't be seen until 2016

    10 years of life just like every other production Ferrari

    then again I might be dead wrong as usual :eek:
     
  8. AJ

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    2012.
     
  9. bulletproofwallet

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    like.......literally? i have a few debts...........
     
  10. PAP 348

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    Normally 5 yrs between every Ferrari model. :)

    The 430 has been a recent exception, it has been in production since 2004. :)

    The 328 was a 4 yr production run and 348, 355 and the 360 coupes were all 5 yr production runs.

    **The 348 Spider was a 2 yr run, 355 Spider was a 4 yr run as was the 360 Spider.**
     
  11. JazzyO

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    #36 JazzyO, Oct 25, 2011
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    I've seen several Aperta's at the factory. All had only the "1 of 80" plaque, as far as I could see. I remember I was looking around the cockpits to see if there was any other plate.

    As to the original question: it's quite simple really. Models like the SA Aperta give Ferrari a way of exuding air of exclusivity without having to go into a very expensive development programme, which nowadays has to include crash testing for each model. Ferrari want to build more cars to make more money, but they have to retain the air of exclusivity. That's why they create variants that are limited with lots of marketing goodies. It is very important that they can sell many more than they build. People with money like to be told: "Sorry you can't have one". They act like they don't, but then it makes them want the car even more. So they will try to go for the next one and have a real sense of accomplishment if they get to buy it. They can brag to their friends that they managed to buy something that some famous person couldn't buy. And so it works brilliantly for Ferrari. Just not for the speculators: just see what the 575SA and 550 Barchetta are worth now. Because no matter how you spin it, a variant of a production model is not a true limited edition car.


    Onno
     
  12. jtremlett

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    Onno, I'm not exactly sure what you mean by that but here a couple of 550 Barchettas currently for sale in the UK:
    £169,990 - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2964903.htm
    £164,950 - http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3033902.htm

    A normal 550 Maranello is in the £40k to £50k range in the UK. I don't know offhand the original UK list price of the 550 Barchetta but I rather suspect those selling prices represent a pretty shallow depreciation rate compared to the "normal" 550.

    Jonathan
     
  13. Miura Jota

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    #38 Miura Jota, Oct 26, 2011
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    ...Are we talking about an ALL NEW car or an updated facelift a la 360/430 ?


    if we consider 360 & 430 as the same car , it lasted 10 years in production (1999 - 2009 )

    the same goes for 550 Maranello & 575 from ( 1996 - 2006 )

    I'd love to see an ALL NEW V12 GT next year but I seriously doubt it

    it rather be a facelifted update of the same 599
     
  14. PAP 348

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    I don't know what we're talking about. :D

    I would have thought a 360 and a 430 are TWO different models.

    Same as the 550 and 575. Similar looking cars, but different in many ways. So that makes the 550 and 575 two different models in my opinon.

    Also, what about the 328 and the 348? They look nothing a like and they both had a 5 yr run.

    It all comes down to each others opinion of the matter I guess. :)
     
  15. chouch

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    599 replacement will be presented at Geneva in march 2012.
    Lucky first clients will probly take delivery by the end 2012.

    Some people on Fchat have already seen the car and confirmed that the 599 will be replaced next year.
     
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  17. open roads

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    Rarity and high desirability is a valuable position that Ferrari has mastered.

    They haven't lost any money by not making 500 of them. It think it may be the opposite effect.

    They sell mystique as well as metal.
     
  18. open roads

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    By the way.


    I want one. :)
     
  19. RareAir23

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    That tri-layer yellow looks amazing.
     
  20. amenasce

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    Jonathan,

    I think Onno means that these cars will not offer (in short/mid term) the return speculators are after (like an Enzo or buying a 458 to flip within a few weeks.). They depreciate slower but still lose value, unless you keep the car new. Most barchettas are selling for less than MSRPs and same for the SA.
    However, there are just 80 SA Aperta and this time the car has a special engine..so wait and see!
    Andrew
     
  21. 300GW/RO

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    do not discount rhd keeping numbers higher for uk etc. approx 10% rhd of the 448 units? similiar with the gated 6-sp of the 575m sa (approx 10%) of production? These should see higher prices and longer-term especially gated/gtc sa, imo.
     
  22. darth550

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    They'll build as many as a) they can sell and b) that they have parts for.....


    Not necessarily in that order. ;):)
     
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    Yes; I recently saw an Aperta without the series number plaque. I later learned that it's an option, for which the ordering owner can pay.
     
  24. Masher44

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    My favorite color on my favorite open air Ferrari of all time. Absolutely breath taking
     
  25. JazzyO

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    Yes, that was my point, thanks Andrew. Barchettas have shown a slight increase recently but they are still way less than purchase price. Appreciation is not in the picture here, at least not yet.


    Onno
     

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