Said Goodbye to a Lambo, For Now

Sorry to hear Eron!

Enjoy the new house and good luck on the future car purchase

 

Eron,

The AZ Lambo Club will miss you, but we know you'll be back soon!
We'll be thinking about you on the Bull Run tomorrow!
It should be a great run. Will take photos and some video.

AZLambo

 

Being 'exotic less' is like going through drug withdrawal. For the first time in 25+ years I was exotic less for about 2 months. I hated that empty space in the garage.

Lambo or none, after the cars start things, its about the people and the friendships you've made. Don't be a stranger at C&C. If you can step down from the Lambo and wander over to my 'lowly CS', come say hi!

 

I've had my DD GTR for nearly 2 years. Let me know if I can be of help.

 

Awesome collection of cars you have there.
A radiologist I worked for in Texas had a GTR as a daily and loved it. He never had problems with it and wasn't afraid to push it.

 

Thank you. Had mine for almost 17k miles now with no problems.

 

I'm in the Z / GTR club and we have had 4 guys that have gotten GTRs from Pinnacle Nissan and have had nothing but good to say. Pinnacle Nissan also says there the top selling dealer for GTRs in the US

 

Bought mine at Earnhart in Mesa. Tried to buy from Power in Tempe and they turned me down over $1000 difference. Called Earnhart, told them what I offered Power and they said come on down. Drove home an hour later. Power called me the next morning to tell me I could have the car for my price. It felt good to let them know I already bought one.

Met up with a former racer for Nissan who was part of the GTR introduction team and he told me break in was not really necessary and was more of a liability issue rather than a mechanical one. I still followed the recommendations in the manual just to be safe. I don't recall the specifics but I can check.

 

You have a CS and the GTR and do some track driving, right?

So I recently got the CS, and I'm taking it to all three days this weekend with ProAutoSports for my first track time...but, I'm already thinking that the cost of tracking the CS may be prohibitive for me...I realize tires and pads are going to be eaten up on any car, but the corsa's and CCM-specific pads are expensive...and then there is the "what if I break something or damage something and what does this do to the car's value" questions...not to mention the cost to replace CCM's after only a "few" track days...

I'm already thinking of getting something simplier/cheaper to track...oddly like a Boss 302 mustang or perhaps a covette...you know, something $50kish to start and then american-made, easily-available, relatively-cheap parts after that....

How do you think about your various cars and what to track? Any insights into your thinking and experience are appreciated.

Thanks!

 

Does the launch control really void the warranty, or have they fixed the issue?

 

Launch control does not void the warranty but that being said, I've never used it.

 

Tracking any car on a regular basis can be expensive. Reminds me of a joke: How do you make a small fortune in racing? Start with a big one.

I've tracked my CS twice and had a blast doing it. Brakes, maintenance and damage are the reasons I don't do it more often. Not too concerned about tires but chips, cracked windshields and CCM brakes are costly. Car is a riot on the track but the GTR is MUCH faster. If money is a concern, track the CS on occasion and something like to Corvette would be a good choice. Relatively cheap, lots of power, IRS. Too much to really go into here but I would be happy to discuss it sometime if you'd like.

 

Thanks...that's where I'm leaning...I'll know more about my intention after this Fri/sat/sun at Firebird with PSA...

If I really want to do more of it, there is no doubt I'll get another (more or less) dedicated track car...I really want one of those Boss 302's (boyhood dream car was the original) but I need to better understand the real-world (real-track?) implications of solid rear axle vs. IRS...another thread another time.

Sorry for the thread drift!

 

Eron, is the Superleggera staying in Arizona?

 

I paid $5k under sticker for mine.

 

A thread about the GT-R sales numbers:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=316518

 

Low ball them first, offer them 82,500 first.

 

I'm convinced generally (I have no insight on this car) that these "dealer invoice" type numbers that are only a few thousand dollars below MSRP are total bullsh$t. Meaning that the "wholesale" to "retail" mark-up just has to be way more than that...

My recent experience with buying a used car and knowing all of "asking price", "trade-in value" and "actual sale price" tell me that dealers are (and need to) make more than (using your example above) 5% gross profit.

They have to be getting these cars for 15% or more below retail. I mean think about it, that is "gross profit". That means out of that $4k (in your example) they have to pay the sales commission, advertising, utilities, building rent, etc, etc etc. No company (or few anyways, but I've not seen one except a very high volume wholesaler like McKesson doing 100 billion per year gross) can survice on 5% GROSS margins and then have to deduct all of their operating costs...

I would venture, for example, that new Ferrari's are bought by the dealer for at least 30k under their retail...and a 40k Ford for 8-10k under...

Just musing and hoping that someone with real ITB first-hand knowledge chimes in and sets me straight...

Good luck on getting the GTR!

 

completely agreee. The Karros negotiating class I took 20 years ago taught me one lesson that has stuck with me...you always start low becuase you can only go up!

[and any seller with a business brain - especially a professional who does it for a living -will not be "offended" by a low ball offer. Its truly such a silly emotional response when you list something for sale (a car, a house, whatever) and be "offended" when someone says "I'll buy it for X". I've never understood that. All you have to say, is "I'm glad you like it, but I need Y".) Yet, I see frequently (on here even) folks saying "I don't want to offend with a low ball offer"...]