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  1. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    #51 BigTex, Apr 10, 2008
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    JB5,

    I'd like to apologize on behalf of the site........sadly, the sarcastic posts ARE from Ferrari "owners"....and this place is pretty tough on newcomers, the site has software to fill out your "Profile" and introduce yourself, but obviously it takes some time to learn.

    Now more to your point, I'd like to introduce the previous poster, Napolis, as a legitimate person, who I myself would trust with a purchase of this magnitude.......he drives one! :D :D

    He is cautioning you about the power the car has, which has caught quite a few of our community off guard. The one the left the road in Utah was in the hands of one of the highest mileage owners!! He'd driven it almost 30K.

    They originally sold new for $700K if you were purchasing directly from Ferrari, the current market on a "No Stories" Enzo is *shrugs shoulders* $1M to 1.2M, Jim?

    So anything between those numbers is OK, but as with any Ferrari (Used cars, really...just used cars) it's condition, condition, condition....

    Your husband is a lucky man, you are not the first to seek advoce here, but those ladies are very rare!

    Alan Leach
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  2. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Sadly, you will, but then you can move quietly away from them to the other side of the room, where Mr. G and I will be hatching some fun, crazy plan!!! LOL!

    As with any random sampling of humanity, you'll have to sort thru them yourself!

    We say after a Ferrari fatality, "There's Ferrari "owners", and then there's Ferrari DRIVERS"......
     
  3. phrogs

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    My knowlage and my take of salvage titles and cars being rebuilt is like this

    1) I want to see pictures of the damage before it was fixed so to see just how bad it was damaged.

    2) some insurance companies with give a car with light damage a slavage title and others with heavy damage they will just fix it.

    3) some cars that are theft recoveries are given salvage titles if the insurance company has paid off the car.

    4) any car that can be rebuilt should be in my opinion especially rare exotics.

    5) any car in the USA that is given a slavage title or a rebuildable title will retain the original vin number then it must be inspected after being rebuilt by a state qualified inspector some states use a highway patrol or state police for this, After the inspection if it is deemed roadworthy it is then aproved for a new title, Again some states with then add to a new clean title "salvage title previously issued" some states will not do this and it is possible to title a car in enough states to "wash" this away and make it seem like a clean title, and car fax sucks plain and simple.

    Now with all that said for this car Id also want full list of parts replaced and what the factory had to do to fix it, Id also want pictures of the rebuild as well, Id also contact the factory and ask them if they did the rebuild.

    Is this car back in the states? If not it still has a salvage title and needs to be inspected before anything would happen on my end.

    And isnt 1.4 about top dollar for a Enzo if I was shopping I wouldnt pay that much for a car with a history like that. Id drive the hell out of it I just wouldnt pay top dollar for it but Ill never have a enzo so it doesnt matter.
     
  4. ivo73

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    some of them are already rebuilt by the Factory and again on the street....

    ivo
     
  5. ferraridude615

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    What are you talking about? First off, why do you refer to your husband as "The husband"? Second, what other cars do you own?

    My apologies if I am mistaken, but you must see yourself from our prospective. New person comes onto forum and immediately wants to buy an Enzo and they usually turn out to be a 14 year old.
     
  6. gsjohnson

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    Clearly her last post was not written by a 14 year old. She is complaining that she was not treated with respect or seriously and some of the responses clearly demonstrated that. Not a 14 year old response by any stretch of the imagination. She tried to hit the nail on the head when she described some of the silver spoon in the mouth Ferrari owners responses. I don't think she minds alternative thinking to her question, but treating her like an idiot was offensive to her. That's how I read it.
     
  7. amenasce

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    Please , thats your perspective ( prospective is something different..) not Fchat's . Who said you have to be a long time poster to buy an Enzo ? Thats ridiculous.
     
  8. AustinMartin

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    Loose still owns his car, so count that one out. Just buy a new one, it will do no good to buy a salvaged one.
     
  9. UroTrash

    UroTrash Four Time F1 World Champ
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    didn't Jim G. buy the last new one "in the wrapper"?
     
  10. Napolis

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    I did and I sold the parts I didn't need to Richard so that his may ride again.
     
  11. M.James

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    With an estimated street value of almost double what the vehicle costs 'new', if there remains significant chassis/engine/coachwork left after the accident there is a car that can be completely restored in Maranello. A Million-dollar damaged car goes back to the Factory - they have everything at their disposal to completely rebuild the car to OEM specs. I wouldn't have the slightest hesitance to purchase such a car if I had the means....nothing would leave Ferrari if it wasn't perfect. Think of it as 'home equity' with a vehicle such as this, and you'll understand that money spent restoring/rebuilding an Enzo is a sound investment. The car Eddie Griffin cracked-up is probably back on the road as we speak, good as new....
     
  12. UroTrash

    UroTrash Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Al Gore should give you a recycling award.


    :)
     
  13. AustinMartin

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    Hope Richard gets his rolling again.


    *Edit* in first post I meant, why not buy a not wrecked one. Not a new one.
     
  14. PSk

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    For that sort of money there are lots of classic Ferraris that to me are far more interesting and driveable than an Enzo. Like a 275GTB or competition Daytona's, etc.

    Then your husband would be able to enter many more events and use the car more ... than just driving to car shows.
    Pete
     
  15. amenasce

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    Diversity makes the world goes round. Daytona Comps are a tad more expensive than an Enzo...
     
  16. mksu19

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    I was just about to say that.
     
  17. PSk

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    My mistake.

    My point was that Enzo's cannot be entered into any of the classic car events ... thus if this lady was to purchase a car that could be entered, not only would she be buying a neat car but also a car that could be used and give him much enjoyment. Heck I'd like to do say the Milli Miglia or the many lower key events.

    Far more fun than driving to Starbucks :D, or doing private laps at a race track.
    Pete
     
  18. amenasce

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    Vintage cars might not be for everybody. I would love a car for the Mille Miglia, maybe even more than an Enzo but if you look at the right places , you can have a lot of fun with the Enzo too...An Enzo and a 250 TDF...that would be a nice gift :D
     
  19. Pirate75

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    He did. They had titles and drivetrains from the 60's. But the serial numbers were CSX4000 series, not the original CSX2000 series. So even if you were to buy one of these cars and title it as a 66, the vin number would tell any potential buyer that it was a continuation, not an original built in the 60's. But still sweet though, my buddy has one.
     
  20. Jackmb1

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    Recommendations:

    1 - for the price, look for a clean title Enzo
    2 - if you plan to purchase an Enzo, you should consult your husband. Do you know if he wants an Enzo?

    Good luck
     
  21. PSk

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    Agree that vintage cars are not for everybody ... just chucking this option out there, because like us men buying jewery we are not always sure exactly what our ladies like, only about 70% right on a good day.

    I'd ask a few questions of his mates, brothers (not sisters, waste of time ;) ) and father if I was her.

    I'm not even sure my wife would buy the right car for me ... and I have books all over the place. Even when it comes to birthdays, etc. a little direction push from me doesn't hurt when it comes to car stuff. Now my father on the other hand is always spot on with car related books :).
    Pete
     
  22. Fan512bbi

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    My wife bought me a ferrari for christmas, but she is a member here so she knew what she was doing :)
     
  23. BigTex

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    See?

    This is the last of the truly nice guys left on the planet, IMO! :D

    There should be a few other nice ones around though, with the FXs, and FXXs and all those that have been sold.

    Has anyone pegged the VIN she's talking about, on the market?
     
  24. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Happy belated birthday to Steve!

    *pounding on the side of the computer*

    The reminder on my calendar failed to function, for some reason........let's go have a Guinness......

    Back to our thread.......no Cobra stories allowed....:D :D :D :D
     
  25. darth550

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    Finally, something interesting.....

    BTW, loving that pic of you more and more and more, every single time you post it! :):)
     

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