www.twoturbos.com/march_show.avi it has quite a few acceleration clips as well. ryan and cal shot and edited it. they did a great job! the hoster has asked that we not put this all over the web for bandwidth limitation reasons, but said fchat was good. if anyone else has plenty of bandwidth available and cares to host it for more voracious consumption, it would be much appreciated. i also have a compressed (33 mb) version of the 60 mb one linked above.