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  2. patpong

    patpong Formula 3

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    Very nice group indeed....
     
  3. kevfla

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    Hi John,

    Is the green 275 the "Del Rio" 275 featured in Automobile Quarterly and where was your PF?

    The Lusso looks positively dwarfed by the two SUVs. Thanks.

    KevFla
     
  4. John Vardanian

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    Hi Kevin,

    The green 275 is the original Del Rio car, featured in AQ.

    I drove the dwarfed Lusso.

    john
     
  5. Napolis

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    Very Cool!
     
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  7. synchro

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    I like the 330 GTC in the color of gold/oro longchamps/ or whatever it is

    Those 10 hole standard wheels are growing more attractive on me each day,
    especially with the thought of cleaning Borrani wire wheels being overwhelming.
     
  8. donv

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    Looks like fun! I wish there was something like that up here.
     
  9. Perfusion

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    Absolutely *stunning* collection of automobiles! I literally laughed outloud seeing the Lusso next to the Excursion...
     
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    Very nice!
     
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    Thanks for posting. GREAT cars. Certainly the Lusso just looks drop-dead gorgeous. We have a group here in Melbourne Australia that goes out with the carby cars and we go to wineries etc. If I remember I will take a few shots at the next outing and post some photos.
    Again thanks for posting the photos of some great cars.
    John
     
  13. jsa330

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    For some reason that pic makes me very nervous.
    Beautiful group of vintage Ferraris.
     
  14. lukek

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    Sorry again to have missed it ! I really liked the Olema Inn drive you had organized earlier.
    BTW, the head stitches are healing just fine....
    :)
     
  15. SefacHotRodder

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    I'm in love with that 275 :)
     
  16. John Vardanian

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    Glad to hear it wasn't too serious of an injury.

    Maybe we'll do another drive this winter.

    john
     
  17. riverflyer

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    What a fine car, just gorgous. A very nice collection of cars.
     
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    I would love to join your next drive. Please let me know how I can join your ride group. Thanks.
     
  19. John Vardanian

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    Please send me a PM with your email and I will include you in the email listing.

    john
     
  20. tzucc

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    the 275 makes me very weak in the knees.

    Pls add me to your list... I have a 246GT '72 to keep company with this fine crowd.
     
  21. Horsefly

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    One thing that bothers me about the XKE Jags is readily apparent in your photos. The XKE has the tires and wheels much further inboard than the Ferraris. I've noticed this on many XKE cars. The Ferraris have the tires and wheels that are flush with the sides of the body. The Jags always look like they are teetering above their tires and look top heavy because the wheels are not flush with the sides of the body. Is there any way to make a Jag look better and extend the wheels and tires outward a few inches?
     
  22. John Vardanian

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    #20 John Vardanian, Oct 27, 2005
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    I think that is inevitable when the sides of the car are so rounded, like the XKE's. Ferraris are more "slab-sided". So with the XKE the tires need to be farther in to clear the fenders. You get the same effect with Alfa Disco Volante, and even some of the Ferrari racing prototypes, like the Mondial/Monza.

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  23. mroz

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    I never thought about that -- interesting. John, very observant.
     
  24. ArtS

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    I think there is a term for this curving under effect in automotive design. Where's Freeman? he can answer this.

    Regards,

    Art S.
     
  25. Horsefly

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    That old Alfa looks like a 1950s vintage high top sneaker like guys wore in gym class. I think the XKE Jaguar designers got it a lot better.
     
  26. sjvalin

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    I"m not sure what the term is. Up until the late 40's, car bodies from a frontal view had the bottom wider than the top. Touring changed that with the Barchetta by having the widest point in the middle, thus forming a "boat" shape. I can imagine that Bertone, Malcom Sayer, and others exaggerated this in the Alfa BAT and Discos, Jaguar D and E type, etc. Touring, Vignale, and Pinin Farina walked a fine line with this style to keep the wheels from looking lost in the wheel wells for Ferrari. I'm not sure I'd call it slab sided, just more restrained. Gotta love the post WWII styling evolution!

    -steve
     
  27. El Wayne

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    It's called "turnunder."
     

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