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Saratoga tops: observations, questions, & prices

Discussion in '308/328' started by i-velocita, Feb 20, 2014.

  1. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

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    That popped in my in my inbox this morning.
     
  2. i-velocita

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    Updated list.

    3/12, $1500, FerrariAds
    10/12, approx. $2400, eBay, cracked fiberglass near pin
    10/12, $3750, eBay
    12/13, $5600, eBay,
    1/14, $5000, FerrariAds, near excellent condition, later model with padding on frame, included storage pouch
    1/14, $7000, excellent condition, early model without padding on frame, serial number tag missing, no storage pouch
    1/14, $5600, eBay, #816752
    6/14, $3150, eBay, scratches on Lexan
    10/14, $4900, scratches on Lexan
    11/14, $6000 eBay, used condition showing wear, early model without padding on frame, included storage pouch
    3/15, $5000, minor scratches
    9/16, $7500 FerrariAds, very nice condition, later model w padded frame, reproduction pouch, price included shipping
    6/18 $4100 eBay, solid top w scratches & rub mark on Lexan, in need of refinishing/restoration.
    6/19 $1000 eBay, with broken frame - for parts/restoration.
     
  3. dinonz308

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    Do you have links to the ones available?
     
  4. miketuason

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  6. i-velocita

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    #106 i-velocita, Jul 3, 2019
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    The list shows sold units only. Date of sale shown on left.
     
  7. dinonz308

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    Ah - ok - thanks.
     
  8. 83911SCDrew

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    Not sure if this has been discussed before, but Pilkington, the company that makes vintage windshields, manufactured a reproduction of the Saratoga top for the Porsche 944 sunroof just a few years ago. The 944 guys had asked them to do a run, and they accommodated it. I’m not sure if they have the rights to reproduce the other Saratoga Top models, but might be worth a shot to see if they can reproduce the 308/328 tops. I sent their customer service folks an email to inquire about them reproducing a run of these tops. I’ll post when they respond.
     
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  9. dinonz308

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    I found the company who bought the rights to the Saratoga tops but they stated they are no longer making them.
     
  10. dinonz308

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    Actually, I went searching my email for the details, looked up the company to see that they were bought out late last year by another company - so have emailed them to see if they were planning to remake them, or whether they would consider a one off bulk order to remake a limited run of them. Will post if I hear anything.
     
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  11. Rosey

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    Put me down for one realistically priced, brand new Saratoga top.
    Imagine that. Now that would ruffle a few feathers.
     
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  12. dinonz308

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    It would - although of course, ours would be reproductions and not original.. lol
     
  13. pizzadude

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    I’d be interested if the price was reasonable ..
     
  14. Rosey

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    That's even better. Newer materials.
     
  15. dinonz308

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    I'm not holding my breath - haven't heard anything yet.
     
  16. 83911SCDrew

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    I struck out with Pilkington. They claim they don’t have the tooling required for a targa top. (But they could do sunroofs with similar frames and latches?). Oh well.
     
  17. dinonz308

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    Same here with the company that owns the Saratoga top rights. Business must be so good they can ignore potential new customers.
     
  18. thorn

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    Why buy the the rights if plan = do nothing?
     
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  19. miketuason

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    Somebody should buy the rights from them and reproduce the Saratoga Top.
     
  20. dinonz308

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    The original company I contacted bought the rights 20 or 30 years ago - possibly bought the whole company and the rights came with it, and I presume the same for the latest sale. From their side, the market probably isn't big enough to get into remaking them. Corvettes however - another story.
     
  21. 308 milano

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    #121 308 milano, Jul 13, 2019 at 5:04 AM
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    This^ And how chances of being sued have jumped over 20/30 years. Cost of product liability insurance probably more than you would see in profit.
     
  22. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I guess it doesn't just boil down to the small number of 308 S out there, but the number of their owners that will spring for one for a few grand.

    That just cannot possibly be a very big pool of customers
     
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