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Saratoga top

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  1. Cirorsi

    Cirorsi Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2016
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    ohhhhhhh, $10K, that is crazy
     
  2. ferrariowner

    ferrariowner Formula 3

    Feb 21, 2014
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    Actually, it's $11k. But it still crazy!
     
  3. miketuason

    miketuason F1 World Champ
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    Feb 24, 2006
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    This are almost impossible to find, I think there’s only a handful of this made.
     
  4. maurice70

    maurice70 F1 Rookie

    Jan 25, 2004
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    lmpossible to find or not,a Saratoga top just isn't worth that sort of money,l mean you won't get a $11k benefit out of it..personally l would pay $2k max if l were in the market for one..
     
  5. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
    11,990
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    Agreed; it is only a sheet of Lexan, that's all. I seem to recall that there were about 150 made in total. But I am somewhat partial to this, as I already have one. I have considered creating the very exclusive "Saratoga Top owner's club of France"...
    Rgds
     
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  6. cmt6891

    cmt6891 Formula 3

    Feb 25, 2008
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    The rule of supply ans demand prevail. This top has been for sale for some time now and the asking price is just that. $11K seems rich but FMV probably is half that amount and would likely sell at that price. $2K is unrealistic, why you will pay more than that for a factory targa top, if can be found, that wouls still need restoration work.
     
  7. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    May 4, 2001
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    I have one and love it.

    But if that thing on eBay sells anywhere near what is being asked, mine is going there next.
     
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  8. tinterow

    tinterow Formula 3

    Nov 1, 2014
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    Dr. Tommy, you're hilarious!
     
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  9. i-velocita

    i-velocita F1 Rookie
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    Sep 9, 2006
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    Carl...

    The last top known to change hands sold for $7500 among f-chatters (no eBay fees). It was a nice top but far less complete than the eBay top in question.
     
  10. Ferraridoc

    Ferraridoc F1 World Champ
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    Jun 20, 2012
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    If you put one of those things on your car where I live, you'd fry your nuts in a heartbeat. "Solar Oven" springs to mind.
     
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  11. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    It doesn't make the inside hot at all.

    I live in a very hot climate and the top blocks out the heat just fine in the summer. It will surprise you.
     
  12. BLACK HORSE

    BLACK HORSE Formula 3
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    Feb 11, 2004
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    PASS.... Don't like people who smoke crack... $11K yeah right!
     
  13. Fairview

    Fairview Formula 3

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    #14 Fairview, Mar 2, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2018
    You’re missing that it is “or best offer”, and that the seller is a well respected member here, and knows the Ferrari parts market very well, so he deserves better than your comment about smoking crack. You probably didn’t realize all that, however. I’m not the seller, or his mom, by the way, just a former Saratoga top owner.

    Given the trajectory of the price of these since 2010, I’d wager the seller will get close to that amount. In 2010, a Saratoga top was a $1500 item, then in a couple years a $4000, item, then a couple years more, a $7500 item.

    Here is a link to detailed photos of a top I owned a few years ago to give a better appreciation for what these are:
    https://milepost105.smugmug.com/Ferrari-308-and-328-Saratoga-T

    These tops are the rarest of the 308 accessories, are beautifully made, and add quite a bit to the enjoyment of the car.

    Cheers, Jeff
     
  14. bertrand328

    bertrand328 Formula 3

    Jun 1, 2015
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    So, it is not possible that some re manufacture them ? How many GTS (308 & 328 ) owners would like one ? Anybody try ?
     
  15. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Well said
     
  16. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Not worth the cost to even try.

    It has been discussed here before. The customer base for them is just too small.
     
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  17. 308 milano

    308 milano F1 Veteran

    Jan 15, 2007
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    With no disrespect intended to the seller.
    I view these tops as an aftermarket accessory, equivalent to fitting carbon fiber seats or Aftermarket wheels. ZERO interest in one even at $1100.
     
  18. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Obviously that is exactly what they are.
     
  19. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
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    That's your priviledge, of course; I have had mine for five years now, and never had put the original one on the car again. I like the "Saratoga top" very, very much; lets a lot of light inside the cabin, and where the car is, it's difficult to drive with the top off from mid October to end March; and truly impossible in January or February.
    To bring the car to "full original" again, the swap between the original top and the Saratoga top is done in one minute without even turning a screw, or needing a wrench. No sweat.

    Rgds
     
  20. G. Pepper

    G. Pepper Three Time F1 World Champ
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    I don't fit in my 308 with the top on anyway. :)
     
  21. nerofer

    nerofer F1 World Champ

    Mar 26, 2011
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    The Saratoga actually give you, let's say "slightly more headroom": let's say about half an inch...

    Rgds
     
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  22. 308 milano

    308 milano F1 Veteran

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    And yet priced as if they were OEM.
    You Guys are happy with it and that’s all that matters. Post above asked if there were any interest in I stated MY opinion .
    As far as adding a half inch of headroom. Depending on how much cash I have in my wallet or sitting on a coat tail on a given day would make that a wash. LOL
     
  23. Dr Tommy Cosgrove

    Dr Tommy Cosgrove Three Time F1 World Champ
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    And we are all happy you don't ever want one. Thanks for the heads up.
     
  24. 308 milano

    308 milano F1 Veteran

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    #25 308 milano, Mar 2, 2018
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2018
    No problem! Good to know you speak for the entire group.
     

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