You are welcome. If you look at the icon, it is, in fact, a picture of a manettino made with a small number of pixels. BTW, great project. I wish you luck. I burned up all my motivation (and money) on a 12-year full restoration of a 67 330 2+2. Tom 2007 F430 Coupé
Tom - don't know how you did it for 12 years. This car feels like I've been working on it for 12 years and it only been 2.5 months. It's sooooooooo close to driving. I'm glad I didn't realize how much of my time this would suck up or I may not have bought it. Please post up some pics of the 330, I'd like to see it. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Where did you source the new front and rear bumpers, grills and rocker panels? Looking to change my 430 to scud look, so I have been shopping around. How much trimming, filling and sanding did they require before you could consider them ready for primer?
Awesome qualifying and race!!!! i repaired the rear bumper using a donor challenge bumper my friend gave me- Thanks to Mike- and a mold I made. I like doing fiberglass repair and the scud OEM material is easily repaired. Also repaired some of the grills, bought the rest from Ferrari- they will only supply them after you prove you own a Scud-and they usually need to come from the factory- plan on 6-10weeks. Neither the side skirts nor front bumper are primed. That is just the gel coat you see. The side skirts are pretty rough, they are temporary. To make them right will take a good body guy - 20hrs- my guess, i dont do any final finish body work. the mold lines are poor and inconsistent, the pieces would need to go on and off car to get right enough for me, so I just bought a set of CF regular 430 side skirts from 'freshmeat'. I may make a set of CF Scud skirts as it would cost the same as buying stock parts, not sure yet. The front bumper is better, but still rough. As I dont have anything good to say about the parts I will forgo naming the supplier. Except to say they were cheap (both price and quality) and the supplier told me the parts would need work. And if you choose to fix them up they would be equal to OEM, but it will cost a good bunch of man hours. All this is plenty good to meet track rat status and will get me on track Wed. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
The project is really coming along! As for the replica body panels, my buddy Ronnie Renaldi (he's on here too) had the same fitment & quality issues and he ultimately ended buying oem, but unfortunately only after having already spent time+money trying to get them to fit properly, and even after all that it still didn't work out! I like how you removed the side markers off the rear bumper eurospec clean! EDIT: just a thought, but did you ever consider going full challenge front w cf splitter? Probably more cost effective than oem Image Unavailable, Please Login
That car is beautiful, i rarely see any challenge so clean and perfect. I had second thoughts and put the side markers back in. I need to get her through "enhanced inspection" to convert the salvage title to reconstructed. Stupid laws. Funny you mention the CH thing- yes i am torn, the scud front is nastier/better looking IMO, but the spoiler is most likely more effective on track, or what do you think of this. (picture) bad pic but google it- kessel racing Scuderia GT. Ahead of its time- pulled air above the diffuser inlet, through the trunk and out the hood. Very effective- ala 458/Fxxk. increases downforce on the front axle while reducing total frontal area, and adds additional place for another radiator. But also makes the double Scud stripe look terrible, big minus. I haven't completed front trunk repair yet so anything is possible. The hardest part is deciding how I will use the car and until I put some miles on, just dont know. Life is grand. Thanks for the side skirts! Image Unavailable, Please Login
r, I spent three years building a 24x40 workshop and then sold the house after I bought (in 2002) the 330 in somewhat rough shape. It was a great workshop but not-so-great neighborhood. We moved to a nice neighborhood and a nice house but it didnt have much of a work area. Then, in 2008, I asked an acquaintance who owned a restoration shop in OKC (Vintage Connection), if he could finish the car. (I had the engine through the short block and had acquired a lot of parts and accessories.) He said yes and estimated the cost to be about $30,000. Six years later (2008 to 2014) and more than ten times the money, I had a completely and beautifully restored 67 330 2+2. Then I sold it earlier this year. I always have to chuckle when I hear the cost and time estimates on restorations people make for their projects (present company excluded, of course). Remember the Westheimer Rule: make your estimate, then go to the next higher unit and double the number. So a six-month, $30,000 project will actually cost $600,000 and take twelve years. You have put work in on your Scuderia at a much higher rate than I ever did, personally. I dont think even my professional shops (except the upholstery shop, Dan Kirkpatrick Interiors) worked at the speed with which you are. Dont stop or you will NEVER finish, although it looks like you really have the momentum. Tom 2007 F430 Coupé Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Wow - Tom, that is really exceptional. beautiful car. i keep hoping to stumble on a rough old ferrari project that I could finish to that level.
I like it! Your front end is entirely open too, so you can in theory incorporate all the necessary ducting and hardware to get the vented bonnet to deliver. And since your Scuderia is san-stripe you don't have to worry about the weird stripe! win-win!
Got her together, she is now a track rat!!!!!!!! This car owes me big bundles of joy, and tomorrow at 8:30 she will have the opportunity. All codes have been cleared, except for some odd F1 stuff that is not effecting shifting or performance. Here's a quick video of the first test drive. I need sleep badly, day starts with a 2hr drive to the track, fingers crossed. By the way I lost 2.5 hours of my life removing the dash board - Lots of tricky stuff in there. I will be posting up a guide to help everyone out with that. If anyone has a more complete workshop manual they would be willing to share... The 430 manual on Ferraridatabase is chock of sections that say "to be completed" or similar not helpful nonsense. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Feeling a whole lot better about this project now. My Scud missile is an awesome car, at the track on a perfect day! I was concerned that maybe I missed something that needed fixing so using a low grip tire seemed to be a good way to put on some test miles while limiting the amount of load on the suspension. I had a set of Scud wheels with 3 year old michelin pilot sport tires and decided to use them. As expected the performance envelope of the car far exceeded the available grip so I did a ton of sliding around the track. The fuel was also going stale so I went out very conservatively, warmed up the engine and ran under 4000 rpm for 20 minutes, then spent another 20 minutes under 6000 rpm, and no more then 1/2 throttle. Never lapped a track that slowly, but it was a good opportunity to listen to the car, test brake stability, and even catch some of the bumpier rumble strips to see how the car would react. All good and I burned through 1/2 the tank. Filled up with no ethanol 93 octane and on to the next run. Still short shifting as the car has sat unused for 6 months and only had 3400 miles, 7500 rpm redline but full throttle. The F1 Superfast2 transmission is IMHO perfect. I prefer it to the dual clutch units from either Ferrari or Porsche. The shifts are positive and feel as fast as a dual clutch. Feeling comfortable I would not loose a wheel or collapse a shock, I started pushing a bit, its been a long time since I drove on a track with street tires, there was very little mechanical grip but the car was very stable in Sport mode. Kicked it up a bit in speed and switched to race mode. The car got looser and it was easy to power oversteer through corners at high and low speed, but the car still helped keep things in check. This was a bunch of fun, safe, and could make anyone feel like hot shoe. The Scud has an amazing electronics package, the intervention is noticeable but difficult to pinpoint where it is cutting power/balancing wheel traction w Ediff/using the rear brakes to bring the rear back. It is very different from a standard 430, closer to the 458 I think. I was only able to get about 3-4 laps before the overheated tires lost what little traction they had. Then the car would plow under braking, turn in felt mushy and it was difficult to keep to my intended line. So of course it must be time to turn CT & CTS off. The car transformed - it fells like a quieter Challenge car with more body roll. This is a very impressive car, not one hiccup or glitch. Except for my fat head...last session out I spun it. Coming out of a tight low speed left onto the esses, I gave it too much throttle a touch too early. The rear snapped around faster then I could counter steer and I mowed the grass backwards. No contact with other cars or objects. Maybe its just more power then I'm used to but it seemed that oversteer occurs somewhat faster then on a 360 CH car-softer suspension bushings at work here? 134 track miles, I love this car, need to buy a good set of tires but slicks or R compound???? I couldn't resist a little ode to the multi color paint scheme-they are being replaced with CF next week. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
You put it in the grass? You just killed the value of the car. Great to see this worked out and you had a chance to stretch the car's legs on the track. So what's the next step? Are you planning to leave the car as is and use it mainly as a track car, or are you going to spruce it up and use it as a road car? If the former, I'd keep the IROC look.
The scud is such a fun car to own and drive. Beautiful and fun to drive on the streets and fast enough on the track. Since you have changed the CF rotors to steel ones, you get the best of both worlds without worrying too much about maintenance costs. On the outside, I would like to see the car the way it looked when it came out of the factory.
