SCG 003 and SCG 003C (formerly known as "P 33")

what a cool idea,
Ferrari based or not is semantic argument and pointless IMO, let's just enjoy vicariously something we'd all long to do as gear heads, build our own car!

i've long desired more compact light weight sports cars, if i had simiar resources i'd love to make a modern TZ2 i've been designing (not anything like the TZ3 which was made)

few cars now are true milestones, with all the current design knowledge and tech available, what a wonder that could be made, i for one am looking forward to what comes as P33!

 

What about Richard Losee? Where does he stand with Ferrari?

 

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/attachments/288gto-f40-f50-enzo-laferrari/1674861d1363385956-p-33-jims-work-computer-1396.jpg

Even un-finished the P 4/5 is so much prettier then the Enzo.

Napolis, Are you able to say how the Enzo and P 4/5 compared aerodynamically?
Thanks.

 

Sounds great a project like P 33. I'm looking forward to see the progress of it. Nice decision Mr G !

 

I see. So basically the Enzos' openings (on the exit side) were to small. Bad internal dynamics.

 

Don't think so. Compare the 0-300 kph times between P 4/5 and Enzo. Enzo was designed for acceleration which is far more important than downforce in a supercar for the street. That was a significant client request and design goal for Enzo and LaFerrari.

 

Jim,

Congratulations on your new project. Hopefully we will follow some of your development along the way. Good for you and your team.

 

P4/5 has the original VIN of the donor Enzo so could be kind of fine in this section as a rebuilt Enzo. Not big trouble anyway if moderators decide to keep it in a different section. But P 33 clearly doesn't belong in this section unless Mr. G. advances clear intention to base it off the platform of one of the following: 288GTO [...] LaFerrari.

Not that I mind reading here about this project but clearly this is not going to be a Ferrari car.

 

As I've said in a different thread, custom designed cars are a venture worth supporting.

This will clearly be an epic project as was the P4/5. I will be watching its' progress with great anticipation.

None the less, it doesn't belong in this section. I think it's here frankly because Jim G. is an expert guerrilla marketer and will flog the popularity of this section, as seen with the new La Ferrari, to get any and all attention he can. Lets face it, there seems to be an axe to grind and what better way than to capitalize off all the added press in this section?

I just personally feel its wrong that Rob goes to great lengths to bash recreations such as when someone posted a GTO conversion in the 308 section but Jim's threads are left as is. To me it seems like there are two sets of rules but it's his bat and ball.

When all is said and done if the P33 ends up wearing a Ferrari badge backed by the factory then it should be moved back to here. Up until that point it's a recreation/custom car no different than Zausners 550 powered roadster and should be in its' own/different section.

 

I understand your approach. I hope you get to race P33 whether it is this first version or the next.

 

Jim:

Congratulations on your new project. Thanks for sharing with us. It will be great to follow what development you can share as time progresses.

Sounds like the Pope is the Pope and Luca is God.

PNH

 

Does it really matter what section of the forum it's filed under? I mean, this forum has a whole section dedicated to other marques and nobody has a cow about it.

Where else are we going to get detailed insight into the building of a new sports car from the ground up?

We're addicts and Napolis is the pusher. Can't you just let us get our fix in peace?

 

Very exciting!! Keep the updates flowing

 

Your picture shows the growth in size and dimensions of Ferrari cars over the years.

Part of that growth was due to the fact that all cars got bigger.

Ferrari's got bigger due to the demands that owners made to have more useable trunk space and a larger cockpit. I think LDM wanted the cars to be capable of taking the owner and his passenger guest on a romantic weekend trip!

Anyway it seems that now the size is headed the other way--smaller.

LaFerrari is smaller than the Enzo both ways: exterior and interior.

And it sounds like your next car is going to be smaller too.

Smaller automatically reduces weight and aero demands.

IMO part of the reason the 911s had been competitive on the track, smaller size.

 

+458
Either there are separate sections for a reason or there are not.
This thread is put on here to gain more exposure, because let's face it-more people come here than in the 430, 458 sections or whatever the P33 will be based on. If it is based on a Ferrari model at all.
Will the P33 be spectacular? I'm sure it will. Will we love it? Most likely. Will we admire and follow Jim's venture? Absolutely. But does it belong on here? NO WAY.
By the same logic I can post a tuned up honda on here, because I may believe that in ten years the next Ferrari may have the same shape wing.

 

not like they use to be, looking at the newest version

 

Ever since I first saw this picture, I've thought it represents what you are talking about very well:
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Perfect representation.

Funny how people get their panties in a bunch because of an extra thread in a section...feel free to not click the link, it being here will not impact your life, enjoy someone sharing an experience rather than locking it away like others. Life is good.