Micheal really screwed his chances of winning his 8th championship, with his dumbass stunt at Monaco. Alonso is leading the chapionship with 64 points, and Schumie is in 2nd with 43 points. There are eleven races left in the season, meaning that there are 110 1st place point to be won. If Michael wins every single race for the rest of the year he will have 153 points at the end of the season. Here is were his stupidass stunt is gonna cost him more than the penalty the stewards placed on him. See if Fernando finishes in 2nd place for the rest of the season he will finish with 152 points, 152 POINTS! That is only 1 point behind what Micheal will have IF Micheal manages to win EVERY SINGLE race for the rest of the year. With the way the Renault and Alonso have been performing I think it is safe to say that Fernando will win at least one more race before the season ends. Unless Alonso gets a DNF and doesn't finish on the podium a few times, Micheal can just kiss number 8 good bye. Let's hope that some of Mika's bad luck shifts over to Alonso, I doubt it will, but we can hope. I still think that Shumie is the greatest F1 driver of all time, but he really screwed up big time with that blockheaded qualifying stunt.
This is why I hate the current points system. It makes it almost impossible to catch up to the leader, and too easy to maintain a lead. Bring back the old system, which places more value on a win: 10 6 4 3 2 1
agreed. in the current point system, with a driver finishing second at every race this season, can gurantee him a championsip, without even winning a race! what kinda champ will that be?
Under the old system Alonso would have 58 points. MS would have 25 points, hmm I think that helps MS more than it helps Alonso.
+1, but it's 35 points for MS. Keep the new system. It rewards people for consistency and keeps the championships closer than it would be otherwise. No need to hate FA and/or the points system just because he finishes 1-2 all the time.
The old system was replaced because MS was champion a few times too early in the season for spectators to keep any interest in F1 (remember 2002?)
Formula 1 should be about speed and winning, not prioritising consistency. I think Pole, fastest race lap, and most laps lead should all score points. Maybe even most positions gained and shortest pit stop too... All weighted correctly of course. First thing is to dump the stupid fuel rule. Qualify as fast as possible, fuel as you like for the race.
Every one has to make pit stops, it'd be totally fair as a rule to reward back markers or allow rear starting fast guys to catch up over a season. Eg Schuey got 5th from a pit lane start, so he should be rewarded, but of course, not so much as to make it an advantage in the race, just cumulatively over a season. I think we need more points for a win, and scale it down from about 40 or something.
There would probably be more passing in F1 if there were specified pit lane windows like in other series. Kinda forces people pass on the track rather than dive in the pits early to avoid traffic. You also know everyone has the same fuel load, which makes pit stops that much more crucial.
Yes, but how many were as a result of being on a 1 stopper allowing him to pass people while they pit on their first of two? I wish F1.com had facts like this. # passed on the track vs. # passed when others pitting.
It doesn't matter how many or how it was done, it's just another part of strategy the teams could use. A pass is a pass... measured from start position to finish position.
What I wish is that they would get rid of the silly engine rule. I wonder where Kimi would be (this year and last) if it were not for that rule.
MS made some great passes yesterday but Ralph Sheheen and Danny Sullivan didn't see them. Back to the purpose of this thread, yes MS screwed himself. He has all the marbles on this season; argueably this is more important to him than his first championship. Unfortunately the real MS comes out in situations like this.
Not sure I agree with that: They did show some of his superpasses in slow mo. Same with Kimi's pass on Webber. Just goes to show that if you're talented and on a mission you can even pass in Monaco.
Agreed, he proved that passing (on the track) is possible in Monaco. (and if its possible there; wouldn't it be possible anywhere?) I recall that we came back from a commercial and had to figure out that MS had passed Alonso. It took them a few minutes to get to that minor point.
Ok, I see. Although that really is a minor point since Alonso just let MS unlap himself, not really a pass.
There was no reason for FA to be pushing the car to its limits. He just needed to preserve it for the next race. Michael on the other hand was trying to get as many points as possible.
This all makes sense after the "pass" took place but I don't presume anything with F1. Who of us would have expected the polesitter to throw his race away by risking the potential two point advantage he "held"?
I like the point system it keeps things a bit closer. However I would like to see a point awarded for Pole, and only an extra point for pole, nothing else. We don't want F1 to turn into NECAR. If you gave points to fastest lap, fastest pit, most laps led, etcetera, then it would become to easy for someone to win the championship with out even winning a race. The current system of points in pretty good but I really do feel that they should award one point for pole. Awarding a point for pole would tighten things up even more, and then the racing would become a real dogfight.
Anyone else watch Indy?: After being passed just before the checkered, one of Marco Andretti's first comments: "Second place is nothing".
