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  1. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    it's a bit 'funny feeling' for me to purchase schumi's cap next season, with the digit either 5 or 7 on the cap...i'm so used using all my schumi caps with the digit 1 proudly beside the prancing horse logo...will take a little time for me 2 get used to that...*sigh* if they get beaten by toyota, it'll be 7..a number i prefer compared to 5..
     
  2. imperial83

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    The numbers may stay the same next year. It is based upon the fact that a large sum of money has already been used on marketing material etc that show the current numbers. Some teams would prefer not having to spend all that money again, reprinting and editing old material. So Michael may still keep the number 1 for next year.

    There has yet to be am official ruling regarding this issue. (aka Bernie is still on holiday)
     
  3. racerx3317

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    This would be the only time i ever heard of anything like this occuring. There is no way MS will keep the number 1. Even if he did, he doesn't deserve it.
     
  4. GoFerrari28

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    Although I've never liked MS, make the number 27.
     
  5. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

    i would prefer michael not having 27...i'm not much of a fan either.

    on the subject of the number 1 plate, i would bet big money that the world champion will dig deep and find a few more marketing dollars to change to indicate the world's #1.

    now in motocross, ricky charmichael has kept his number 4 despite winning the title year after year...so it is not w/o precedent.
     
  6. Shuey2k

    Shuey2k Karting

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    The numbers have always been assigned based off of the previous years finishing order. Besides, who cares about the money spent on marketing, the money made on team gear is what matters most. Watch what happens to Alonso's hats next year. They will sell out -
     
  7. Gilles27

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    Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....alarm goes off....Imperial awakens....

    Is that the same dream where they rename "F1" as "Ferrari 1"? And all the drivers are required to get chin implants and adopt the surname "Schumacher"?
     
  8. speedy_sam

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    Alonso will get number 1 and Fisichella number 2 next year. Mclaren should get the 2 and 3 and thus Ferrari will get 4 and 5
     
  9. PSk

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    LOL ... man Imperial you are getting worse!, please return to taking your medication please ;)

    Pete
     
  10. Gatorrari

    Gatorrari F1 World Champ
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    No, if Alonso wins the title, McLaren's drivers will get 3 & 4 and Ferrari's will get 5 & 6, unless Toyota overtakes them, in which case it would be 7 & 8.
     
  11. PSk

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    Wasn't MS's number when at Benetton (before he became WC) number 5 ... or was it 7???

    Anyway, I'm sure speedy_sam meant what you said Gatorrari ... he was just a little too speedy on the keyboard :)
    Pete
     
  12. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    i think it'll change based on the drivers championship...schumi changed them over and over when he was in ferrari..remember '96, then '97..then he changed it back in 2000...
     
  13. T308

    T308 Formula 3

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    Yes, he wore number 5 in 1994 and 1997. Let's hope there are no more celebrated "racing incidents" in the championship deciding last race as there were in both those years...

    T308
    (who was at Jerez in 1997)
     
  14. azbobbybooshay10

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    I'd like to see them follow the IRL/Champ Car numbering system. All the teams pick their own numbers, and the WC gets #1. Only the WC changes number after each year, and if you don't repeat as WC, you go back to your original number.

    Take Ganassi Racing in 1996 Champ Car (CART at the time)

    1996: Zanardi #4, Vasser #12. Vasser wins WC.
    1997: Vasser #1, Zanardi #4. Zanardi wins WC.
    1998: Zanardi #1, Vasser back to #12. Zanardi wins WC.
    1999: Zanardi moves to F1 and his replacement, Montoya, takes #4, with Vasser still #12. Montoya wins WC.
    2000: Montoya #1, Vasser #12. Montoya wins WC, but moves to F1.

    This way teams still have thier own individual "team numbers", but if one of their drivers wins the WC, he gets #1. You could even let his teammate have #2, to take part in the Constructors Championship. Other than that, everyone stays the same.

    And I also couldn't see Shumi in #27. I like Massa #27, Shumi #28. IDK, we'll see what happens. But I do think they should make the numbers stay the same from year to year.
     
  15. imperial83

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    Considering that two of the teams that have made the request to keep the same number are McLaren and Renault, there is a good chance of there being some debate before the new numbers are announced!!!
     
  16. Anthony_Ferrari

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    There is absolutely no way that Michael will have the number 1 on his car next year. To think otherwise is completely dillusional!
     
  17. racerx3317

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    In formula one it has never happened as far as i know. Motorcross and Nascar no one changes numbers so the number becomes indentifiable with the driver or rider. IRL and Champcar the champ gets one everyone takes what they want. Only F1 have these stupid rules regarding car numbers.
     
  18. racerx3317

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    Impy, this is silly even for you. Rememeber when Nigel Mansell and Alain Prost retired after winning the title? What number did Williams end up with? You guessed it, number "0". That as close as MS is going to come to having a number 1 next year. 1 is for the world champion ONLY.
     
  19. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    FIA does this number thing, so that it's easier to identify the car and the drivers, without mixing up..i mean, say suppose JB jumped the start, instead of saying JB from BAr will be investigated by stewards, they'll just keep it rather simple.. car no 3 will be investigated by stewards...so i guess this is the easier way, less hassle, i can't imagine drivers choosing thier number every year....
     
  20. racerx3317

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    That does not really explain why. Most teams, before this rules chose thier own number and usually kept it. You knew, ok, number 27 and 28 was Ferrari, 11 and 12 was Lotus, 5 and 6 was Williams and so on, they didn't change every year other than the champ. It was way easier to indentify the cars than it is now. The rule never made any sense to me.
     
  21. PSk

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    If they DO go to teams keeping numbers then number 1 must not be taken by any car ... it just would not make sense.

    Thus lets start from number 2.

    But I personally would rather they changed the numbers each year ... then you can tell if the team is any good or not straight away! Surely easier for new comers to the sport.

    Pete
     
  22. Koby

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    A bigger deal than Schumacher losing #1 is the Scuderia losing the first garage, I imagine they've grown quite used to it by now.
     
  23. SPEEDCORE

    SPEEDCORE Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Funny Feeling? Getting used to?? You only been a fan for 5 seasons? I have his cap numbers when he wasnt winning championships. The bad thing isnt the number on the side, but I wont get to add to my strips collection at the top!! My 7 stripe cap can easily fit another 2 stripe championships :p

    Next years cap Ill put a mini sticker on it, no5(or watever) due to stupid rules and have a pic of Max.
     
  24. azbobbybooshay10

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    I actually think they should start off with #3. This way the other driver for the team can get #2 to designate the Constructors Championship.

    I also disagree with the "its easier for the Stewards to recognise the car" thing. If anything, I'd say it makes it MORE difficult. The stewards then have to keep up with EVERY car changing after EVERY season (OK, Jordan will stay eternally #19 and #20). By staying the same, the Stewards will see Sato take someone else out and automatically know to say "OK, bring car #10 in and park him."

    Like I said, everyone gets permanent numbers, but the winning team gets #1 and #2. If the WC retires following that season, then give him #0, a la Damon Hill in 1994.
     
  25. PSk

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    Okay.
    Thinking of the stewards in regards to the number thing is stupid and irrelevant. There is not even 20 cars ... if the stewards cannot keep up with who is in what numbered car then they are fools. We need to think of the spectators and fans ... that is far more important, and thus I say again with the numbers allocated based on last years performance is a REALLY good thing for the fans, and expecially people new to the sport. Straight away they can tell who is good and who is not!

    And the rest of us can handle the numbers changing ... after all I have not talked about F1 cars via their numbers for years. I already know who it is! ... infact I could not tell you what number Kimi has for example.
    Thus I am dead against this permanent number bollacks ... just alienates the fans even more (in my humble opinion :) ).

    But in the end I don't really care ... but explaining who to watch to my kids is heaps easier by just saying 'if their number is less than 5 then they are good ... and probably not been lapped ...'

    Pete
     

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