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scissor lift, dangerous?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by bpu699, May 22, 2008.

  1. bpu699

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    I love my bend-pak scissor lift, and use it on the testarossa and 914 all the time. But I do question their safety. The locking mechansim seems quite secure, but I always worry that some fluke accident might happen and the lift collapses, or the car tilts backwards. I just don't want my obituary to read "Moron squashed by Ferrari." I suspect that's what the local news paper would print :).

    Anyone have any safety tips?

    I was thinking that if I could get some of those old metal milk crates, I could stack them up under the rear tires, so if the car falls (earthquake, whatever), it would at least fall forward and not onto me.

    I usually put some jacks under where I think the wheels would sit if the lift collapsed, to give me a safety margin.

    But honestly, I hate working under the thing if no one else is home. I figure that if something bad happens, at least someone is around to help...or document my last will and testament :). The testarossa is such a big tail heavy car, it just seems "unbalanced." The 914 is really not an issue - its so small compared to the footprint of the lift...

    Seriously though, what safety measures do you guys take? I thought some cinder blocks would work really well, but I dont want to be dragging 10 or so of those around... Lately, the only time I can work on the car is when I am home alone... I hate thinking that one of my kids might run into the garage and get hurt.
     
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    Ummm....all I can say is that you've been playing russian roulette. Never ever go under a car with only a jack stand...especially a scissor lift. I don't even go under one with only a floor jack.

    I have a low profile floor jack and a set of rhino ramps and a set of jack stands. For yourself...it seems like a set of rhina ramps will work. Just jack the car up and place the rhino ramp under each wheel.

    Please don't go underneath the car again with only the scissor jack. :)
     
  5. yelcab

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    I think he was talking about a $3,000 lift that brings the car up to about 4 feet high, it is quite a sturdy piece of work and not the $50 scissor jack you get with a GM vehicle.
     
  6. bpu699

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    Right. :)

    I thought about the high lift jacks...any other thoughts?
     
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  8. TopElement

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    Just get a set of tall jack stands. I'm always scared when working under a car, no matter what's holding it up. Can't be too safe.
     
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    NEVER SUPPORT A CAR ON CEMENT BLOCKS!!! They are probably the most dangerous thing you could use short of a rusty bumper jack. They are known to crumble and collapse suddenly.

    Tall steel jack stands are the best choice.
     
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    Please show pics.
     
  11. FasterIsBetter

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    Bottom line -- any lift is dangerous. But if you take the right safety precautions, the risk of injury is minimal with a quality lift. First, you must lower the lift down to the stops. You don't want the lift dropping, even a few inches, while you are working under it. Second, as recommended, you should have a set of tall jack stands to secure the lift at whatever height you are working at. Always be sure that the car is properly supported at solid jacking points, that it is balanced on the lift, and that everything is clear before lowering it.

    Read the manual that came with your lift. If you do, you'll see that it has all the information you need about safe use. Do it right, and you'll be fine. Do it wrong, and it's squoosh-ville.
     
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  14. spider348

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    I have the same BendPak scissor lift. Appears to be a quality built and engineered tool. I have never had an issue or heard of an issue with lift failure prior to my purchase.
    The key point, as stated earlier, is proper use of the lift. Use the correct lift points. Set the lift stops etc.
    Used properly the likelihood of scissor lift failure is no greater than 2 post lift failure. The lifts use the same lift points so the chance of the car flipping off either is also the same.
    In my opinion the BendPak lift is a considerably safer than floor jacks and jack stands.
     
  15. jsa330

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    I plan to get a Bend-Pak or similar lift...three years ago I had the 330 2+2 up on jackstands, sans wheels, for two or so months; all four placement points carefully researched, highest quality stands I could buy. Scared schitless every minute I was under the car.
     
  16. jhfiero

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    i am very familiar with the bend pak lifts, they are a good brand, and you really don't need the tall jack stands. i would just make sure the car is on the lift in a manor that it won't lean one way or the other. basically, just use common sense and you'll be fine.

    just my .02,
    justin
     
  17. gsjohnson

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    Really, no need to be paranoid. You could have those same concerns about any lift.
     
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    Cant be safe enough, use the tall jack stands as mentioned.
     
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