SCUD pricing guide

Scuds will always be more than F430s and yes prices will continue to drop, but I do not think they will drop off a cliff. If you are ready to buy a Ferrari, please do not wait as you will not get the time back.

I hope you find what you are looking for soon and don't let price get in the way of your dream if you can help it. Good luck......Steve

 

As far as I know Alcantara wheel arch covers are like on this photo. The area around where your feet are is covered in Alcantara rather than being bare aluminium with the welds showing.
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Marky1,

Thanks for the reply and pic. That option is a very nice touch, but I suspect many opted to pass.

Cheers,

DL

 

Also includes the door jambs as well as the wheel arches, can be done in leather(higher cost) or alcantera. Does look great when opening the door and viewing the interior, especially with red stitching.

 

and the price is...

 

I like that option! I wish I have it on my car.

 

Easily fixed, buy it through spare parts.

 

I looked at this Scuderia and it has over 1000 miles and the color is Nero Daytona not Black
a very nice car if you like the color combo

 

Nero Daytona is Black. It's a metallic black whereas the non metallic black is called simply Nero.

 

Really? Was looking at a Scud over the weekend that I am tempted by (sold my old one and regretted it) but am put off because the welds look horrible as it does not have alcantara there. How do you put it on afterwards?

 

Please !

I know what Nero means . I was simply letting members know that it is not Black as listed in the ads for sale on ebay,etc .
I have seen both side by side and Nero Dayton Wb 508 has gold metallic in it and in most light has a tan cast look to it and does not look like a BLACK (nero) car looks and we all know that look..

I have looked at two cars this month and both sellers listed it as black and there pictures were taken in a way that it did not show the metallic and no paint code sticker was listed and not till I asked for it did I get " O its not black its metallic black "

Again my point for this post was only to inform members of it real color.

 

Thanks for clarifying that. I have seen cars referred to as black that had the "tan" look to it. I do not like it as well. Now I understand what the deal is.

 

Those horrible welds are the inner beauty of the scud.

I think one of the reasons why the scud prices are falling is partly due to prospective buyers that hear how great the scud is, but when they go and look at the interior, they do not like the exposed welds and no carpet and race seats. They see the inside first----------------------then decide not to test drive it, and then they do not purchase it. That is were the mistake happens.

With that said, they buy the 2008 or 2009 430 road car which has the carpet and comfy seats.

If you are a drivers type of person that looks for the best handling and feel of a car, the scud is what you need. On the other hand, if you need to take you date or wife out in it and do not need all that track type of speed, then the road car is for you.

However, I bet most people that turned down the scud becuase of the interior---------- and then decided to test drive it------------would have purchased the scud over the 2008 430 road car.

You may think that you are not a scud person, but all it takes at least for me was a test drive, then you understand why that car was so much higher priced than the 430 road car. To me it is what a Ferrari should be.

Furthermore, now is the time to buy the best Ferrari has made to date (at least in the mid engine series). It is the best bang for your buck.

 

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The SCUD seats are miserable for me, I sat in one at the dealer and thought I was going to die! I prefer my 08 F430 Daytona comfy seats. I am a larger guy but surely the seats alone turn buyers off with the scud, and no carpet, raw feel etc... I was considering an upgrade to a SCUD but was very dissatisfied with the interior. I know its supposed to be "racy" and raw but it did not do it for me. I'm sure the SCUD drives like a dream but I cant see the interior winning me over. Why else has the prices dropped so much, is it the interor alone?. The look , suspension, gearbox are stronger than the standard 430? I know their is a LARGE racing seat option but I have not seen that many on the market with this option....

So to the experts out their why are the SCUDS dropping to the 170-180k mark? Wasnt the MSRP's just short of $300,000?

 

That's just rationalization. If someone peeked at and disliked the interior, they were never a scud person to begin with. Their lack of appreciation for the performance hasn't affected the resale value. That person was never a buyer.

The fact is, they made a lot of them and tough times means the market for the product is shrinking. The value goes down in proportion to the number of buyers out there.

 

I am happy with my F430 and auto cross it all season long. I would love a Scud or a CS for the track since that is what it was made for. Leave my F430 alone and set up the CS or Scud for track days where it will really shine.....Steve

 

Rationalization? yes maybe, call it what you want.

When I purchased my 430 road car I thought at the time the scud was not for me, due to many factors some being the interior and the price. However, becuase the price has dropped, I decided to give the scud a test drive, which I found out I am scud person, so I bought it.

With that said, most people think they are not scud persons becuase of the price and interior, but if they test drove it they may become one, especialy in todays market.

I was told by the dealership that in 2008 they produced around 200 scuds for the usa. In 2009 they made around 400. half of the 400 went to race type teams for racing. In europe they made as many scuds as there are 430's.

The scud is for a select group of ferrari people that want performance and handling with sacrifice in the interior for less wieght.

These few scuds that are here in the usa came out with the high msrp around 300k. At that time, for the price, you were a track person or a guy that wanted the best if you were going to purchase it. Now days the market has dropped for the scud at least now around 100k. Yes the value has gone down due to the number of buyers, and one of the reasons is that the lack of appreciation for the performance is a factor of the declining value of the scud.

Most persons buying a 2008 430 may easily overlook the scud due to the interior and price and dismiss the performance and settle for the 430 road car.

Having a nice interior with still great performance (430 road car) is more than enough for most persons to stay away from the scud. However, thank you Ferrari for making the wonderful scud for people like myself and a select few others.

greyhair

 

I had a Scud before, I know what it's like to drive. Prefer to have the undoor moulding and wheel arch in Alcantara.

 

Okay! I can't mind read though!
I reckon 75% of "black" ferrari's are Nero Daytona though.

 

Sorry but that is completely wrong.

 

You're taking an unrelated factor and just because of projection bias claiming some relationship.

There are a certain number of scuds. There are a certain number of buyers at each price point. That's all. As market conditions worsen (more scuds on market, less disposable cash, more prudent spending), the price must go lower.

Of course there are optioned cars that will sell better or worse. Alcantara wheel arches probably sell more. I for one will never buy an f-car with power seats again. You call it lack of appreciation for performance but it's really just "taste". One person likes one thing, another likes another. Most people will want full alcantara. The market for cars without is smaller.

 

Your statement maybe true for the last year of production but certainly isn't true when taken over the production life of the 430 model range. In the UK we are lucky enough to be able to get figures for actual cars registered -

165 Scuderia's registered
53 16M's registered
860 430 Coupe's registered
975 430 Spiders registered.
Interestingly Scuderia volumes compare fairly closely to the 119 CS's registered (up a little over 38%). UK typically takes 10% of World production so you can do the maths for volumes of each model. I have seen many people quoting Scuderia production volumes approaching 3000, if the UK is typical for the Scuderia then production was well below 2000.

 

Your authorized dealer would be able to supply and fit the parts. I have retro-fitted a lot of optional parts to my Scuderia.

 

The only way you can tell the size of the seat is to remove the seat and check the sticker underneath to see whether it says "M" for medium or "L" for large. You would struggle to see the difference visually unless you saw the different sizes side by side.
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