SCUD pricing guide

Pretty crazy how few Scuds are for sale at any given time. I remember years ago on a search there would be 20+ listed, now only a few. Will be interesting to see what it does to the market if most owners are holding vs selling. Full caveat; I am an owner who bought late 2019. Best car I have owned and no intent to sell. Based on lack of cars for sale seems like owners want to hold onto their cars, not just for resale value, because they love to drive them, my experience anyways!

 

https://sanantonio.ferraridealers.com/en-US/a/used-ferrari/scuderia-spider-16m/166322-1637072586145

Anybody familiar with this 16M that's currently for sale at Ferrari of San Antonio? Looks like the last owner got it in late 2009 and kept it til now. Had an accident in 2015 which is making me weary, hoping to dig up some info.

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P.S. Anybody in the Austin TX or NYC areas willing to take me for a ride in their Scud? I'm 99% certain the NVH is well within my tolerance limits but I'd rather be 100% before pulling the trigger on one.

 

Theres nothing else to compare. What ferrari are you buying for $225-230 that made to feel Special. With inflation 7-10, its undervalued and cheap.

 

@Clabby93

I saw this car and it looked great. Also, found everyone at the dealership was honest and forthcoming. Highly recommend that you reach out to Nereyda to discuss. Guessing she knows the car and previous owners story quite well!

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I actually met with Nereyda and looked at the car today. It does look fantastic, especially for the mileage. The interior is gorgeous.

I asked for details and was told verbatim "it was a rear bumper scratch", which I suppose is just standard dealership bull-speak, but definitely didn't sound like all of the details they knew of the incident. Carfax shows it as a hit to the left side with no airbags deployed, but vehicle towed. It's probably the only 16M in my budget and it's the right color. I'm tempted to say the least.

 

Here is my two cents (which is exactly what it is worth). If you are looking for a short-term fun car that you will want to sell soon, you might want to be careful with a scud/16m that has an accident history. The only, and I mean only reason for this caution is because the market for these cars is so sensitive to "storied" or prior accident cars. Not warranted imho, but it is what it is. And the concern of potential future buyers will only be heightened if you go to sell relatively quickly (because buyers will assume its got issues and will probably shy away). On the other hand, if you are pretty certain you are going to be happy with the car and plan to use it and drive it and enjoy it for years, I think there is very, very little risk of a lurking issue or taking a hit when you go to sell. Here is why. The car wasn't totaled, so that means it was fixable, and given the types of folks who own/owned these cars, theres little chance that it wasn't fixed right or that corners were cut. Then, if you keep it for years and put a good amount of miles on it, you can essentially "remove the taint" of the accident. I've done just that with cars I knew were fixed correctly and which I planned to drive a good deal. My prior 997 gt3 had an accident and hopped around until my ownership, and I drove my own 996tt for 5 years after I got rear ended. Guess what, no real market hit because I had put enough miles on the cars that folks new I wasn't trying to dump a lemon. No guarantees of course, but I think the odds are good that this is a very solid, properly repaired car that you can get into for a great price and enjoy the heck out of. Good luck, and act fast. Barring some global economic/geopolitical calamity, they aren't getting cheaper!

 

Here's my 2 cents (which I believe is worth 4 cents).

These cars have sensitive aluminum chassis. The 16m is 2 secs slower around Fiorano compared to the Scud. Add the X-factor of the accident history, you might now know what you're really getting.

I'd avoid.

 

certainly valid points. I guess it depends on what you want and if you can confirm extent of damage/propriety of repairs!

 

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RM Scud had front wheel damage due a stones getting stuck between wheel and caliper on both sides.

 

Inclusive of buy fee?

 

I've seen that on more than one. The clearance between the front caliper and wheel is very small.

 

Next year, it would be hard to find a car with less than 10k miles for less than $300k. The market would not be thesame again.

 

That wheel type of wheel/caliper damage can also come from a mis-placed wheel weight...most tire companies wouldn't guess that you cant place the weights at the most logical location on the wheel!

I'm actually surprised the RM scud didn't go higher. I'm noticing that BAT prices on unique cars are also starting to stay a little lower than even a few weeks ago. Wonder if all the millennials/gen y'ers that had crypto millions vanish over the past week are backing out of the high end car market.

 

I bid on it but the SEVEN previous owners was a big downer. I also bid but didn't buy the 308 QV a few lots later. The auction room had cleared out but the phone bidders kept the pace going. So not sure what happened.

 

I am surprised it's taken this long for the Scud market to pick up, given the pricing on CS's and Speciale's, BAT had a similar low mileage car sell for $292k recently. Of all the Ferrari's I have owned and sold the Scud is the one I regret and miss the most. My Speciale A is a great car but the Scud is better, much more raw, involving and it has soul, imo. And, yes I was the purchaser of the 09 at RM, $10k higher than I wanted to pay, but in 5yrs it won't matter and I will be still driving a great car

 

If i like a car, i dont think about a few thousand dollars. They dont make these cars anymore. I rather buy a car a like, than save a few thousands and buy a car a regret. $10k is how much japanese cars depreciate as soon as you drive them off.

Agree with a scud and a modern ferrari v8. Been there.
Sold my first scud, then bought another after I missed it.
Nothing wrong with a new v8 ferrari, but if youved owned 997 RS and scuds, anything new is not always better.

Now lets wait where this will end.

 

Stock market jitters.

 

Acura integra went for 112k today

 

Where??

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-acura-integra-type-r-51/

 

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Another cgt just went for 2m at barrett

 

https://ferrariofdenver.fblod.com/showroom/inventory/ferrari-430-zffkw64a280162268/

Based on this thread from 6 years ago, this is a former exotics racing car, and also has been in an accident because of the lack of carbon in the engine bay - correct?
I don't mind high mileage, nor sketchy history, but has to be priced accordingly. Seems high or is this the current market?