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SCUD pricing guide

Discussion in '360/430' started by RichardCH, Aug 18, 2011.

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  1. Plainview

    Plainview Karting

    Aug 21, 2011
    95
    Dublin
    Interesting. Obviously your prerogative but that's not a trade I'd make. The scud engine/shift combo is uniquely special, I couldn't get the buzz from turbos.
    Good luck though - it's a great car :)
     
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  2. scudF1

    scudF1 F1 Rookie
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    Jan 21, 2012
    2,915
    Long Island, NY
    Full Name:
    Billy
    I know who’s not going to regret it. The new buyer!
     
  3. DeTomasoGTS74

    DeTomasoGTS74 Formula Junior

    Dec 13, 2016
    390
    Austin
    Full Name:
    Eric
    Its not the black XP that was listed in Austin by chance?


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  4. 940*

    940* Rookie

    Apr 21, 2008
    25
    Any ideas on where a black/black 16M with 16k miles would sell for? Factory stripes, full carbon, 16M special wheels. I’m looking to sell mine. Car is located in SoCal.
     
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  5. IcedAmericano

    IcedAmericano Formula Junior
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Aug 29, 2013
    319
    SoCal.
    Was this Tim's car previously, or are you the original owner?

    I'm guessing exterior and interior condition as well as previous owners is going to drive the price, but 300-400K seems a realistic initial range to consider.
     
  6. 940*

    940* Rookie

    Apr 21, 2008
    25
    This was not Tim’s car. I am the third owner, bought it from my friend less than 2 years ago. Car was originally from SoCal and now still in SoCal.
     
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  7. IcedAmericano

    IcedAmericano Formula Junior
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Aug 29, 2013
    319
    SoCal.
    Thanks. The similar 16M I'm referring to was also from SoCal (AutoGallery).
     
  8. 940*

    940* Rookie

    Apr 21, 2008
    25
    Hum… My friend bought it in 2010 though. Could it be the same car? Is Tim a member here?

     
  9. JM280z

    JM280z Formula Junior

    Aug 22, 2020
    878
    Full Name:
    Jake
    #3109 JM280z, Jan 6, 2024
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    This link doesn’t work anymore. So did Chicago Motor Cars have Ed Bolian’s Scuderia? I assume it didn’t sell then Marietta of Georgia bought it, put it up for auction, for some reason it didn’t hit reserve at $190k (shill bidding?) and now it’s listed for $190k on cargurus 2 weeks after the auction.

    What’s the communities thoughts on this car? It has a $3,500 paint job (yes, $3,500 for everything but side skirts…), cheap peeling PPF, Re-stained seats, excessive interior and exterior wear, and a notorious past owner (Ed) who makes his money by showing himself beating up super cars and fixing them as cheap as possible. 44k miles now

    It has 700 miles on it since Ed Bolian sold it. I have serious doubts on its mechanical condition based on how beat up it is and past ownership. It also needs new exhaust system since it has oem headers and cats still. I think -$30k for the cheap ($3,500) aftermarket paint, -$15k for needed repairs, -$10k for excessive interior wear. That puts the car at $130-140k or so. No wonder why it hasn’t sold from two dealerships!!

    https://sothebysmotorsport.com/auction/2009-edboliansgrigiosilverstone-ferrari430scuderia-834

    https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/vdp.action?listingId=362569830&entitySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d1134#listing=362569830/PRIORITY/DEFAULT

    VIN:ZFFKW64A790169461


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  10. Il Tifoso

    Il Tifoso Formula 3
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2013
    1,640
    SF Bay Area, CA
    Full Name:
    Ruben
    Totally agree… but you’d have to be a “shrewd negotiator” :D
     
  11. scudF1

    scudF1 F1 Rookie
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    Jan 21, 2012
    2,915
    Long Island, NY
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    Billy
    The mirrors are standard carbon on all scuds.
     
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  12. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    May 29, 2001
    18,041
    USA
    There is nothing seriously wrong with stock exhaust manifolds and catalysts on a Scuderia. The only known issue is the exhaust manifold flanges can warp and leak. $2k per side can get them reground, new studs and gaskets is a permanent fix.
     
  13. JM280z

    JM280z Formula Junior

    Aug 22, 2020
    878
    Full Name:
    Jake
    Ah, thanks. Good to know the scud doesn’t have that exhaust issue.


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  14. tbuff

    tbuff Formula Junior

    May 15, 2005
    703
    I love this
     
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  15. DutchFerrari

    DutchFerrari Formula Junior

    Apr 7, 2022
    760
    Bollenstreek - Netherlands
    Full Name:
    Jeroen
    I think its a damn shame anyone would order such a stunning car in such a boring paint color, thats what i think of it... a little rougher cars i tend to prefer personally, as you dont feel as guilty using it or putting some harder driven miles on than when its a perfectly preserved show quality car...

    Wether id want an ex Ed bolian car is another matter, although a predicted 30K for a respray to me is hella overpriced, ive resprayed a couple of my older cars, but never even got close to 10K for a paintjob, let alone 30k....
     
  16. JM280z

    JM280z Formula Junior

    Aug 22, 2020
    878
    Full Name:
    Jake
    I am in the Midwest and any high-end reputable shop is $20-30k for a full car paint job. The cheapest shops I can find are $7-10k. Materials and labor have skyrocketed in the last 3 years; when were you last shopping for paint jobs? A front bumper repaint for my F430 and 599 were both $3,000-4,500 for the name brand place in town (which mainly does Tesla paint since they’re Tesla approved).

    $30k reduction from normal market price was not just my guess for just the respray, but also diminished value for not having factory paint. Specifically referring to the Ed Bolian car in question. I’m sure $20-25k is where a shop would be at for a factory level super car repaint.


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  17. ShineKen

    ShineKen F1 World Champ
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    Aug 3, 2007
    19,815
    Southern California
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    A $10k paint job on a Scud would discount it’s value by $80k.
     
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  18. JM280z

    JM280z Formula Junior

    Aug 22, 2020
    878
    Full Name:
    Jake
    Ed Bolian’s Scuderia (the one for sale and in question) has literally a $3,500 paint job on it…. He’s known for doing the cheapest repairs possible and posting it on YouTube, and buying the cheapest car possible.

    There are extensive videos and articles written on his cheap overhaul of the car.

    I devalued it for the cheap paint, wrap, interior repairs, interior damage, and so on by $50k or so.


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  19. Scottslaw

    Scottslaw Formula Junior

    Wow....3,500 for an entire car paint job is very cheap! That's about what I paid for my bumper and hood and I delivered everything off the car without any components, and then did the re-installation! (and then the fresh ppf was another grand). And I thought I was getting a deal! I'm sure glad I don't have to sell my car! I'm sure I'd be pretty disappointed lol!
     
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  20. DeTomasoGTS74

    DeTomasoGTS74 Formula Junior

    Dec 13, 2016
    390
    Austin
    Full Name:
    Eric
    The full respray (everything came off) on my Pantera GTS was $60k.


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  21. JM280z

    JM280z Formula Junior

    Aug 22, 2020
    878
    Full Name:
    Jake
    USD?! Jeez man. I bet it’s beyond perfect.


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  22. DeTomasoGTS74

    DeTomasoGTS74 Formula Junior

    Dec 13, 2016
    390
    Austin
    Full Name:
    Eric
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  23. AandSC

    AandSC Formula Junior
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    Dec 12, 2016
    942
    Jax, FL
    Full Name:
    Allen
  24. Oengus

    Oengus F1 World Champ
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    Initially it looks a little rode hard and put away wet.
     
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  25. grudk

    grudk Karting

    Mar 29, 2005
    105
    Manhattan Beach
    I'd say 225ish with current presentation/damage history (minimal?) but additional challenge is that Hawaii means expensive shipping unless new owner is local. Really needs clutch/brake info on the listing
     
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