430 Scud to Speciale?

Very good point

 

I had a CS parallel to the Scud for almost half a year. 9/10 times I went for the Scud keys, but that takes nothing away from the CS because if I could've had my way back then, I would've kept both; one to drive, one to look at.

For me the driving experience was redundant and the slower gearbox on the CS really comes to bear during regular driving, unless you keep doin a fast & furious at every stop light and keep them RPMs a roarin lol which admittedly I used to do all the time, but ya that gets tiresome after awhile. On the track (the 1/10 times I went for the CS keys) is where you get to really enjoy CS' light steering rack and more inherent over-steeriness. But once you dial in a few things on the Scud (like toe, camber and alignment) the balance is really close and with more power. For me, I think Ferrari really nailed it with the SuperFast F1 single clutch gearbox in the Scud, it's really a sweet balance between outright speed of shifts and visceral feedback...not too fast, but not klunky either. Once I experienced that, I just couldn't go back to the CS. But I have a soft spot for the CS, it was my first Ferrari and even today, I still really enjoy looking at it and the thrills it gave me from some of its more eccentric quirks e.g. brakes don't bite until you get a good amount of heat into them, and I remember taking a few backroad twisties once upon a time and almost sh*t my pants.

I think that's the key difference between CS-Scuderia vs Scuderia-Speciale. Between the CS-Scud the main attractions aren't lost in translation and if you had either you're experiencing a pretty similar and spectacular event.

If performance is your one and only motivation, then obviously the latest and greatest will always be choice. Scuds aren't the fastest things, but unlike the CS, it still delivers contemporary, competitive levels of performance even today 10 years on so in my personal opinion a nice blend of performance and racecar feels.

 

Great insight and much appreciated. I owned my CS for three years before I ever got it on back twisties. It was my eureka moment. Such a fun car. Not too fast and not too slow for real life public roads. I don’t find the gear box clunky as long as you manually blip the throttle on downshifts. The skill it takes to do this makes the gear box special in my opinion.

 

I speak relatively! For me, once I felt that f1 superfast gearbox it was hard to go back...the kick to the head upshifts, canon pop downshifts, it’s the biggest addiction for me, trumped only by the s-line f1 shrill of an exhaust note as you climb the rev band.

@MaranelloDave the sound hierarchy for me if it’s stock for stock I rate:
CS > Scud > Spec

If modded:
Scud (S-line) > CS (Tubi) > Spec (F1)

Pista can’t play this sound game, from the outside it just sounds like utter sh*t imho; but it actually sounds decent from inside the cabin...I feel like there is some harmonic trickery at play. As I watch it whizz by on the track all I hear is massive turbo whistling, but when I was inside the car it sounded really different? I personally don’t appreciate that gimmick...

 

There’s a great write up by my friend which describes it perfectly and artfully:

Speciale vs. 16M
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=9080&share_tid=598317&url=https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/index.php?threads/Speciale-vs%2E--16M.598317/&share_type=t


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Thanks dude!
In a nutshell, the Scud is raw and we all tout the magnificence of the 60 ms gearshift bangs to the kidneys. Top down, I can “feel” the exhaust note of the F1 S line exhaust.
The Speciale is crisper and sharper than the Scud. DCT is more refined but still appreciative in its swift gear changes. Steering sharper. A bit more comfortable.
All the talk about sound is rubbish. You just have to find the exhaust note that suits you, mine is full IPE setup headers back. It’s musical Nirvana.
Which would I choose? Had to keep both, but twist my arm...today, maybe the Speciale by a razor’s edge...tomorrow may be the 16M



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I'll help make this call easier for you, 16M or Aperta =X

Bolded and even underlined it out just in case it wasn't easy enough...

 

SA would be bliss....and I looked for a long time. But thinking long and hard about it, I couldn’t justify double the $ of a coupe - unless I was going to strictly keep it as a collector and keep low miles on it.
Thing is, I drive my cars....so it’s easy to pick up the keys to my S and drive away and enjoy it. 19k miles on my 16M.
The choice now I would choose for that much coin would be a 599 GTO....awaiting to see how market softens this year if any. I need a NAV12 F car!


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