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Scuderia: Challengenmuffler vs. X-pipe vs. total bypass

Discussion in '360/430' started by Beamer, May 25, 2013.

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  1. Beamer

    Beamer Rookie

    Jul 21, 2012
    17
    Austria / Vienna
    #1 Beamer, May 25, 2013
    Last edited: May 25, 2013
    I want to save weight in the exhaust system. Specifically in the muffler and valve mechanism.
    Primary target is saving weight and no power reduction.

    I would like to keep OEM headers & CAT!

    Option 1:
    remove OEM valve & muffler, replace by Challenge muffler only
    Question: Does it fit to Scuderia & OEM CAT.?

    Option 2:
    remove OEM valve & muffler, replace by X-pipe (https://www.fabspeed.com/ferrari430_29.html)
    Question: E.g. Fabspeed promises more HP + torque. Any experiences concerning sound, power, CEL light?

    Option 3:
    remove OEM valve & muffler, replace by streight out pipe after CAT.
    Question: has X-pipe "muffler" any advantages compaired to streight out pipe?

    Any other ideas, experiences, feedback highly welcome!

    Regards,
    Beamer
     
  2. Tio

    Tio Formula Junior

    Mar 26, 2011
    391
    London
    Full Name:
    Harry
    #2 Tio, May 26, 2013
    If your aim is to save weight, why not just swap the headers!

    The reason I say this is because everyone knows that the factory headers are due for a crack any time soon and possibly even cause major damage to the engine it self.

    Now, a good quality aftermarket header will save you around 6kg weight and at the same time give you up to 20bhp extra with noticeably more low down torque that the scuderia engine is lacking.

    Please research this option.

    Perhaps you have a specific reason that you don't want headers.

    Headers won't give you a CEL.

    Cats will trigger a CEL, I have been down all avenues and learned the heard way.

    Now I keep headers, modified ECU and sports boxes and air filters.
     
  3. Ross_L

    Ross_L Karting

    Dec 17, 2012
    237
    Maryland
    Full Name:
    Ross
    #3 Ross_L, May 26, 2013
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the Scud suffers from the header problem the F430 has.
     
  4. dbonvillain

    dbonvillain Formula Junior

    Dec 2, 2012
    287
    Boulder
    #4 dbonvillain, May 26, 2013
    leave the cats, use an x-pipe as the cat back. The S-line one I have on saved 35lbs, sounds great, no CEL and less heat. We will know about power once Alwin gets his next week.
     
  5. freshmeat

    freshmeat F1 Veteran

    Aug 30, 2011
    7,284
    #5 freshmeat, May 26, 2013
    Next week couldn't feel any longer for me personally, lol.
     
  6. dbonvillain

    dbonvillain Formula Junior

    Dec 2, 2012
    287
    Boulder
    #6 dbonvillain, May 26, 2013
    Going to see Ronnie and Jeremy here in a bit. Should have some new vid to tease you with here shortly :)
     

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