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Scuderia experience vs. Gallardo Superleggera LP570-4 or Super Trofeo Stradale

Discussion in '360/430' started by ShineKen, Jan 11, 2017.

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  1. ShineKen

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    Thoughts?
     
  2. PbPedis

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    E-gear on the Gallardo pales in comparison to the Superfast F1. Gallardo doesn't feel as nimble but probably easier to use as more of a daily driver, especially with the front end lift. Interior is beautiful on all and probably comparable. I guess it depends on whether you want a prancing horse or a raging bull. Can't go wrong with either IMO.
     
  3. koop

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    I'd never take a gallardo in any flavor over the scud. I've owned two lambos. Yes they look neat (in a boy racer kind of way), but drive like crap. The E-gear is totally junk and the steering is slow with noticeable understeer. Plus the inside looks like an audi.
     
  4. rumen1

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    I have only driven a standart Gallardo on the track, but it was the most crappy handling car on earth and the E-gear shifts were so slow, that I thought it will be better to take the whole track on 1 gear :D

    But when thinking about this topic, this video comes to mind:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqB39Cf-k6s
     
  5. dwe8922

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    I got to drive balboni 2wd, standard 4wd, and the Superleggera on track back to back during a lambo sponsored event once. They sound amazing. They are much smaller inside, and were a tight fit for my 6'4" frame. The SL had noticeably better track prowess, but they all felt heavier. I much prefer the scud, but would love to have a 550-2 as an addition to the scud one day.
     
  6. SignatureJames

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    I've driven both and I own the Superleggera and currently in the market to find the Scuderia stablemate. The Scuderia has a greater and more involved driving experience and the technologies incorporated in it to be a performance track weapon are evident where as in the Gallardo Superleggera, it is more racecar dress up and more civil for the exciting and dramatic street car. The F1 transmission in the Scuderia is violent and wicked and at times during spirited driving, I have great envy. Sadly, the newer LP570 and the Super Trofeo has even more "racecar" dress up as they softened up the suspension to make it more streetable. The only more hardcore portion of it is bucket seat options (in the USA) and the Egear has improved but lost a lot of the rawness. Just my 2 cents
     
  7. Ingenere

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    I've thought about trading the CS for a Super Trofeo Stradale, but after driving them back to back, the CS is the more involving steer.


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  8. Skippr1999

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    Would be a terrible trade.
     
  9. Twosherpaz

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    Off a bit, but I do like the rear wheel drive Huracan fitted with LF Engineering 800hp supercharger. The combo of extra horses and rear wheel make it a real nice ancillary car to the comparable Ferrari stablemates.

    Having said that, I'd still take the CS and Scud and Speciale over it.
     
  10. Skippr1999

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    Thanks. I agree. Considered a Lambo, and it would have to be rwd
     
  11. ShineKen

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    #11 ShineKen, Jan 16, 2017
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    Thanks for sharing guys. I wanted to see what the response would be before I elaborated :)


    I was spending winter break with a buddy over in Brisbane, Australia. His roommate owns a white LP570 Super Leggera, which are pretty rare over there. He took me for an hour ride along from Gold Coast to Brisbane and as a passenger, I was surprisingly impressed with the car.

    He has simple bolt on mods, but he swears it made a vast difference over a completely stock SL. He has BMC filters, which he swears added 20 hp on the butt dyno. He has Swift front and rear stiffer lowering springs developed by SP Engineering. He also has a Capristo muffler, which gave the car much more bark and added hp. I am just referencing these mods as a reference point.

    Car seemed very agile. Steering wheel is stiff as if the car has no power steering, but it is still very responsive. Has a confident race car feel to it. Car feels like it has massive power and torque. Definitely a car with alot of cajones. Definitely torquer than a Scud. Transmission gears were very quick. I tried looking up the shift times, but could not find any info. It is also a single clutch and you definitely do feel a kick during hard shifts like you do in a Scud. Beautiful alcantara wrapped interior along with carbon door cards and very nice carbon race seats. I would say Scud and SL interiors are a tie, with the SL having a more modern edge. Scud has no carpet floors for the more race feel. SL interior feels more focused. Scud is definitely on the roomier side.

    Sound. No F1 sound from the SL, but I don't know if there are x-pipe mufflers out there for this car. However, it does have a responsive,vicious, and intimidating bark to it. It is definitely a race car for the streets with streetability. The car was certainly comfortable and sporty during the hour long no traffic drive.

    Looks. Car looks wider than the Scud from the rear. In pics, Gallardos look like small cars. In person, I think the size is perfect. Very exotic look to it.

    It seems like most comments are of the first generation Gallardos, which we all know are junk. The second generation Gallardos are much more refined and the e-gear is impressive. The great thing is there is a manual option as well.

    I saw a Super Trofeo Stradale, where only about 250 units were produced, for sale at $175k. That sounds like a bargain to me considering my experience with the LP570. If I were to sell my Scud, I would certainly consider a manual SL or an STS.

    A few specs to consider:

    570 hp. Close to 400 lbs tq in stock form. 12.5:1 compression ratio with direct injection, which is pretty much Italia spec. The car feels like it is a good compromise between an Italia and a Scud, where there is abundant modern hp along with a bit of old school feel with the single clutch transmission or a manual option.
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  12. Devine458

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    The Super Trofeo Stradale is a very special edition of the Gallardo model. Actually they only made "150" world wide. The car is basically street legal version of the actual Super Trofeo race car and they share a lot of the same parts and DNA. The actual wing is the same as the race car along with its engine bonnet...Same engine just tuned a bit different and a couple other features. It's the only Gallardo model I would buy. I've actually owned 2 of them. First one was Rosso Mars (most produced color) and my most recent one is Bianco Isis (which there are only 4 in the US (white). Lamborghini advertised the car having 570 HP, but dyno testing has shown much more power. I've also owned a 458 Speciale....Amazing car, but different. They are both fun as hell to drive which is the most important thing when owning these cars. You can't go wrong with either the Scud or STS. I'm actually in the market for a Scud myself to add to the stable. I prefer the more raw track oriented cars and I think the Scud will be a nice addition!
     

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