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  1. ingegnere

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    And also the lower DF/drag rear wing.
     
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    Well, whatever happens tomorrow, and it will be tough, it is so good to be competitive again.
    Well done to all the men and woman of Scuderia Ferrari.

    The road car division must be happy too, gonna sell a lot of 296 Spiders in Miami on Monday.
     
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  6. Ferraripilot

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    Where is Ferrari's in-season development game? Get it going guys. Leclerc's brilliance can only get them so far if the race pace isn't in it
     
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  7. jpalmito

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    We need to be prudent with this.
    Sometimes biggest improvements in Formula one are invisible.
     
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  8. DF1

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    Ferrari confident faster Red Bull can't maintain F1 upgrade spend
    Ferrari believes that the faster Red Bull team will not be able to maintain spending on the aggressive upgrade push that has pulled it ahead in Formula 1.


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    Max Verstappen’s second successive grand prix win at Miami last weekend, following on from his triumph at Imola, has indicated that recent car developments have given Red Bull the edge.

    But while Ferrari’s early season advantage has been wiped away by its decision not to introduce any major updates so far, the Italian squad still believes the long game is important.

    With all teams limited by F1's $140 million budget cap this year, Ferrari thinks that Red Bull’s aggressive early spending will mean it will have to pay the price later on when its development budget runs out.

    Speaking after the Miami Grand Prix, Ferrari team principal Mattia Binotto said the change in form between his outfit and Red Bull could be explained by the extensive upgrades brought by its rival to Imola.

    But he reckoned there was no way that Red Bull could keep up its rate of changes without exceeding the cost cap limit by the end of the year.

    “It's true that Red Bull have improved their car since the very start of the season, and they introduced upgrades,” explained Binotto.

    “If I look at the last two races, maybe they have got a couple of tenths per lap faster to us.

    “Now, I have no doubt that in order to keep the pace, we need to develop ourselves and introduce upgrades.

    “I hope, because there is as well a budget cap, that at some stage Red Bull will stop development: otherwise I will not understand how they can do that.”

    Ferrari is planning to bring its first major upgrade package to the F1-75 for the Spanish Grand Prix, and Binotto is under no illusion how the developments coming for Barcelona are critical if Ferrari wants to inject some fresh form into its campaign.

    “In the next races it will be at least our turn to try to develop as much as we can on the car, by introducing upgrades,” he said.

    “I think it's not a surprise that we may have a package in Barcelona which will be important for us.

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ferrari-confident-faster-red-bull-cant-maintain-f1-upgrade-spend/10301784/
     
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  9. Ivan Drago

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    Very excited to see the first upgrade package to the F1-75. Charles and Sainz are good drivers, and the F1-75 is a good car. Red Bull obviously has good drivers and a good car themselves. It will be a close season. There are certainly question marks about the power supply and other reliability concerns surrounding RB, which I think will play into Ferrari's hands at some point in the season (or at least I hope). As it stands now, if you took away reliability issues, I think RB has the upper hand, but Ferrari can pull something out with this upgrade.
     
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  10. william

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    Red Bull has superior top speed against which Ferrari has no answer, and Ferrari has already lost at least 2 races because of it.

    The wins in Bahrain and Australia gave Ferrari a sense of false security.

    Max is quickly catching up and will lead the championship before long at this rate.
     
  11. Ivan Drago

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    Yes, but if Ferrari can close the gap a little bit on the top speed, it has a chance of winning more races. It doesn't need to be equal with the Red Bull. Take yesterday's race for example. After the VSC, there were about 3 laps at the end where Leclerc was within 0.5-0.6 seconds of Max. Maybe a track with a longer DRS range it would have been enough, who knows. In any case, it won't hurt to gain a little more top end speed.
     
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    is it true that, ferrari didn't bring any major updates?
     
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    Some say that we got a new RW, but it didn't perform as per expectation, so they reverted back to the old one.
     
  14. ingegnere

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    They didn’t use the new rear wing because having seen the asphalt they thought it best to keep the current wing—which seems to be their medium-DF wing—for better tire performance. So they never even tried the new wing:

    https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-ferrari-lala-carica-e-stata-limata-per-le-qualifiche/10301369/

    For Spain they’ve prepared a high-DF package with the upgrades—which they’ve been developing since the start of the season—according to this:

    https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-binotto-red-bull-piu-veloce-di-noi-di-2-decimi-al-giro/10301629/

    Would need nice if they actually use it this time. ;)
     
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    I hope they do. We need to understand how the updates perform on road than in CFD room.

    Any idea why were we left with no fresh mediums in the race?
     
  16. Phil~

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    I want Chuck to win Monaco. I hope Ferrari brings some upgrades, he needs that pole.
     
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    The tyre degradation (or lack of) caught everybody off guard. Pirelli talked about at least two pit stops and in the end the hard tyres could last all the race. Probably Ferrari were too cautious with their high downforce setup.
     
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    In any case, should Ferrari disclose everything their do on their cars?

    It would be a good tactic to say nothing and leave the opposition guessing.
     
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  20. Ivan Drago

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    Or maybe say they will do something and do nothing ;)
     
  21. ingegnere

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    This was the tire allocation:
    • white-banded C2 hard compounds (x2 sets)
    • yellow-banded C3 medium compounds (x3 sets)
    • red-banded C4 soft compounds (x8 sets)
    Only 3 set of yellows so if Carlos had those on when he crashed on Friday and Charles when he spun that left them with one set for the start and one set to do practice runs.

    I believe they went into the race really expecting high deg and so ran the high DF set up and where expecting to use the hards for the 2nd and possibly 3rd stint.
     
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    I think even without upgrades, Charles should win Monaco, the F1-75 seems almost like made for the track. Best accleration, best cornering; RB won't do anything with their top speed there, wouldn't be surprised if Merc or someone else actually would be ahead RB there as the second best car.
     
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  23. jpalmito

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    Sometimes the Monaco track is very surprising.
    The Red Bull was very agile in the very slow portion of the Miami track last weekend.
     
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  24. Bas

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    Monaco will be interesting for sure. My gut says it'll be a Ferrari walkover. Took me a while to find the Miami sector layout, sector 2 ends about halfway of that horrible slow section, just in front of the 2 awful left right bumpy chicane.

    Ferrari is fastest in S2 (11, 12, 13 is where Ferrari wins all their time), whereas Red Bull is fastest in S3. I'm going to assume here that RB wins all that time back on the straight and in corners 18 and 19, with Ferrari nailing the slow speed section. Interesting is that Mercedes is right there in S3 as well...but this may be tyre temp working for them in Miami, showing that if they sort out their tyre heating for Monaco they could be up there. My guess is they'll run all the Toe and then some!

    Interestingly Sector 1 is where Ferrari was absolutely amazing all weekend. I said earlier that Spain might be 50/50 Ferrari/Red Bull but looking at S1 now, Spanish GP should be a Ferrari walkover...



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