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  1. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    As for team, I tend to like the winner of the moment. That's why my preference has changed many times in the last 61 years.
    In the last 10 years, I liked Mercedes because they were the embodiment of an efficient well oiled organisation that kept winning.
    I admired that. It reminded me so much of the McLaren golden era (Lauda, Prost, Senna) when they dominated .
    But you must have noticed that I have gone cold on Mercedes since they don't win. I hate being disappointed.
    If Verstappen keeps winning, I may grow to like Red Bull, against my best judgement.
    But never expect any team loyalty from me !!! Life is too short for that.
     
  2. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I call blind allegiance fanaticism; I am incapable of it.

    My post #951 explains it.
     
  3. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    Got it many times from you.
    Very unusual for me but i respect this.
     
  4. JWeiss

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    Front-runner. Fan of the sport but not a fan of a team. Most of the people I know have their teams (in all sports), and live and die by them. But I do know some that are general fans of a sport and “root” for whoever is winning. My sense is you don’t really root for anyone, but rather appreciate success.
     
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  5. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Exactly !!
     
  6. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

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    I did not know Ferrari made airplane engines.
     
  7. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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  8. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Translate is doing a pisspoor job, so I can't understand what he's trying to say?

    Was there a new directive on 16th May that leads to a power issue for Ferrari because they can't burn all the ethanol required? And Ferrari is recoving this power loss by running higher engine modes?
     
  9. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    First part yes
    Second part difficult to say
    Nikolas tombazis ex Ferrari is the author
     
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  10. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Tombazis wrote the article or the directive?
     
  11. jpalmito

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    The directive.
     
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  12. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    man, all these people Ferrari lost to the FIA and people had a fit about sure hasn't worked out in our favour...
     
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  13. ingegnere

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    Translation is bad because the article as written is just as bad. Sounds like pure fantasy, starting with the fact they claim cars had 120 kg on board when the limit is 110.
     
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  14. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    I found the numbers odd as well but didn't check if the rules changed for that, lol. Pre coffee I guess. I can't recall any FIA directives being made in regards to fuel either, with all the noise Ferrari makes so far, surely they'd be (correctly!) very loud on that one?!

    I think the original theory of Ferrari having rushed the spec 2 update has lead to reliability issues is the more likely.
     
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  15. petrol_junkie

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  16. subirg

    subirg F1 Rookie

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    I wonder if Scuderia Grenadi will turn up at Silverstone? It’s a track with a lot of full throttle. I’m nervous… This one should be ours!
     
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  17. DeSoto

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    That's because you need a Turrini babble-normal Italian translation first. The guy often looses the plot.
     
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  18. jpalmito

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    New sidepods :
    A good step forwards.
     

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  19. 635CSI

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    Engine reliability seems improved too. Fingers crossed
     
  20. 375+

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    Charles drove brilliantly at Silverstone and again Ferrari strategists let him down. IMO he is too deferential to the team. He needs to deal with them as decisively as he does with competitors on the track.
     
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  21. spirot

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    Ferrari and strategy are crazy. it was good to see Sainz win - yes, however they literally screwed Leclerc with the pit stops. I don't understand who is making the calls? who is thinking? Allowing them to fight while in 1-2 - and then letting Leclerc sit behind Sainz ... or Verstappen before he had the problem... .they let an easy undercut go... WAY too slow in thinking. My only thought is that there is some chain of command that it has to up and down - and Binotto is not in charge - or not willing to put his neck on the line.... They are literally throwing away a championship. the whole "we are not fighting for the championship is BS... " its political coverage for the Italian press - and internal politics. while Montezemolo was not always perfect - he was defacto in charge... that is what they need right now. a dictator ... run by committee is not working. if they don't do it this year - there is no guarantee that next year will be better....

    Having followed Ferrari for over 50 years - the one thing that is totally different is when the Old Man was around at least he was in charge - right or wrong he took the blame / glory... today the corporate structure is stupid for an F-1 team.
     
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  22. 20000rpm

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    This is perhaps what Seb was trying to warn Charles... The team will let you down due to politics. They have the brightest engineers, no doubt. But they don't take a call on who should win. For them, both should win and WCC matters more.
    There is someone at the top, perhaps Elkann who is pulling the strings on who should win. Either ways, it only spells disaster as this will surely demotivate Charles to give his 100 percent. Clearly the team doesn't seem to back him when he needs them the most.
     
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  23. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
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    I watched the replay, thought the team did a great job, quick pitstops, ferraris at the front of the race and we win

    Chuck screwed his own race, the team were brilliant
     
  24. jpalmito

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    Well
    Charles was in first position before the safety car.
    On pure merits.
    This is why he was so upset.
    But I get your point.
     
  25. jpalmito

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    Two wins in Monaco and Spain would have changed everything..
     
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