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  1. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Veteran

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    You are right but in the case of a political lobby activity Todt can have a crucial importance because since Marchionne the political influence of Ferrari is close to zero.
    The Engine saga in 2019 would have been very different with him believe me..
     
  2. sp1der

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    I would say zero use employing Todt he was in retirement mode whilst at the helm of the FIA and was basically invisible.
     
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  3. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Time for Todt and Flavio and that era management to disappear. Old old news. Ferrari should have newer and younger capable thinking on hand. We rely on Todt lol. He did what lately?????
     
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    Take it for what its worth. Myself, with a pinch of salt.

    Gazzetta dello Sport about the 2022 Ferrari:

    "In Maranello they say that the 2022 car is the most aggressive, in terms of approach compared to the recent ones."

    "Mattia Binotto wanted his team to approach the challenge with a greater open-mindedness, than in the past, exploring more avenues in research. They [Maranello] assure us that the results of that will be seen in the new car."

    "The area around the bottom (floor) and the shape of the bodywork will be two key elements for performance in the new regulation. And it seems Ferrari has been pushing research in these areas."

    At Ferrari, they evaluated various concepts for the suspension and the layout of the internal parts, before beginning the actual aerodynamic development in the wind tunnel. And even in this second phase, there was a not at all conservative attitude from the engineers.

    "No stone was left unturned. Another element that suggests confidence at Maranello. Even though they are aware that Mercedes and Red Bull have the knowledge, tools and methodologies to do the same."

    Gazzetta also reports that the design and aero team at Ferrari stayed the same as in previous years (Binotto wanted stability and trusts his team), but they also have new engineers coming from Red Bull and even Mercedes.

    Gazzetta also reports that Ferrari still has Rory Byrne whose experience with ground effect cars of the 1980s could be valuable.
     
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    Well, at least the forthcoming car launch videos will be more interesting this year.
    Will the various teams' cars look appreciably different ?
     
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    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    We'll see the initial launch "renderings" but come testing at Catalunya are the real cars.
     
  8. jpalmito

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    I’m not sure there will be a lot of differences between launch cars and First test cars.
     
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    Bumping this thread because we need to talk more about Ferrari and less about Mercedes, Hamilton, Verstappen, and Red Bull around here.

    Let's relive Monza 2019 together while dream of repeating in 2022:

     
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  13. jpalmito

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    Oh yeah !
    The day they revealed the car, my first thought was : This car could not be quick, so ugly.
    Unfortunately I was right on this one.
     
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  14. furoni

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    But the 1992 car wad a beauty...and in Alesi hands was spectacular and even fast on the rain....what a waste...
     
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  15. DeSoto

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    I even like the spazzaneve, but the F14 went too far, closely followed by the F2012.
     
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    Main problem was the engine.
    Weak and unreliable.
    Jean Claude Migeot said the aerodynamic concept could have worked with a proper engine.
     
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    However Gilles was able to lead in Brazil with that shotbox.....and fight for a podium in Argentina.... that's talent!
     
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    Funny situation this. Alesi blamed the engine almost 100% but just reading recently—don’t remember where—Capelli saying the aero drag was so bad on that car. Also curious is that Migeot claims the change to the transverse ‘box made the aero worse yet Capelli’s beef is that he never got the new gearbox.
     
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  20. DeSoto

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    I see a pattern in these ex-engineers interviews: it never is their fault. So you can count on that Migeot had to take a part of blame.

    And when the car is good it happens that they argue about it anyways, like Nichols and Murray.
     
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    So, grasping at straws, LOL, but if the pattern of a good car every 20 years—1982’s 126C2 WCC car and the untouchable F2002—continues for 2022 (and then 2023) we should be in for some satisfaction this year and next. ;)
     
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  22. Giallo 550

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    There seems to be a lot of negative talk about Leclerc from some members on this forum, and Helmut Marko. One season, in which Leclerc overreached for glory in Monaco and was repeatedly on the short end of the safety car stick, does not mean that he has been usurped by Sainz, who is a very capable driver and asset to the team. We’ve seen Leclerc go wheel to wheel with Verstappen and Hamilton, and he’s got both of their numbers if Ferrari can field a proper car. Let’s see what 2022 brings before jumping to ridiculous conclusions.
     
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