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  1. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    Yes so true^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Im over the constant "Enzo" nostalgia. Old dead news. Ferrari have no obvious plan but the genius level management must, given 2 important jobs are not filled and empty so close to the new season. Stability is lacking. Such is the thinking of a 'luxury' brand. Im much more impressed on the F1 level with RedBull or Mercedes. When the news of Ferrari from LdM is nostalgia its nothing new or or even news. His normal conversations about the past. Nothing else.
     
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  2. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    True, AF Corse successfully carried the flag for Ferrari for years, but look who they were up against in GTE: Porsche mostly, Aston Martin for a while and sporadically Chevrolet.
    In Hypercars , they will meet stiff competition with Toyota, and Peugeot, followed in LMPh by Porsche, Cadillac also Lamboghini and Alpine.
     
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  3. furoni

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    Ferrari will destroy the oposition in wec, they will trash them. The 499 is a monster.
     
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  4. Temerian

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    Good Monster or Bad Monster???
     
  5. DeSoto

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    You're saying it as if GTE was easy. I think you have not been following the class closely, it was hell quite often, with 3 or 4 cars bumper to bumper for 12 hours. The class only collapsed in these last two years, but before there were a dozen of works cars at Le Mans. Also at the beginning AF Corse had to race with less factory support than the others, they only had the drivers and some telemetrists from Ferrari.
     
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  6. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Did I say that ? I was only mentioning there were less teams in GTE and there will be in LMH/MHDh.
     
  7. furoni

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  8. DeSoto

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    Not so long ago there were 5 GTE cars, the same prototypes there will be at WEC next year (well, 6 if finally Kolles manages to get his stuff together).
     
  9. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ferraris-management-chaos-a-contrast-to-calm-2023-f1-car-progress/10410493/

    Ferrari’s management chaos a contrast to calm 2023 F1 car progress
    Ferrari may be facing upheaval on the management front, but that uncertainty is in stark contrast to the calm progress being made with its 2023 Formula 1 car.


    By: Franco Nugnes
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    Dec 12, 2022, 3:08 PM
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    The decision by team principal Mattia Binotto to resign after the disappointments of the 2022 campaign has left the squad facing a more difficult winter than anticipated.

    For whatever the qualities that Binotto's likely successor Fred Vasseur will bring with him, it is going to take time for him to understand the strengths and weaknesses of the organisation to work out where change is needed.

    And amid F1’s cost cap era, making the wrong call on big decisions early in the campaign is something that can have big consequences for the long term.

    But while questions remain about whether or not Ferrari has done the right thing in letting Binotto go, on the factory floor the focus is very much business as usual in pulling its 2023 F1 car together.

    And for now, quite crucially, the team still retains the key technical input of Binotto, who remains under contract and working hard at Maranello until the end of the year.

    The message from Charles Leclerc at last weekend’s FIA Prize Gala in Bologna was very much one of the technical part of the team not getting distracted by the bigger infrastructure issues at the top of the organisation.

    "I am confident because we are doing quite a lot of work at the simulator,” he said about the progress of the 2023 car.

    “We've been working extremely hard in the past year to try and understand what were the weaknesses of this car in order to get better for next year's car.

    “Obviously, there's also Mattia still at the factory at the moment, working and trying to help the team to get ready for 2023. And again, I believe that if the transition is done in the right way, we shouldn't suffer too much.

    “I also think that after the 2021 season where we've been working very well and reset it a little bit from 2020, that was a difficult season, we have been working in the right direction and in the right way. And this gives me the confidence that we'll have a competitive car for 2023."

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    Charles Leclerc, Ferrari F1-75, leaves the garage

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    There certainly appears to be more confidence inside Ferrari than outside at the moment, and that is something that has not always been historically true.

    And while changes will no doubt come when Vasseur has had time to get his feet under the desk, it does not appear that Ferrari is in need of a major revolution or upheaval. Minor adjustments in the way things are run could be enough to make the difference in that fight with Red Bull and Mercedes.

    The data emerging from the work in the wind tunnel appears to be very positive. The 675 project (as the 2023 car is currently known) will represent an important leap in quality compared to the F1-75. The engineers directed by vehicle project manager Enrico Cardile have focused on two key areas where it felt the team lost out to Red Bull in 2021.

    First: it wants to improve its top speed with greater aerodynamic efficiency. The drag problem derived not only from the difference in speed with DRS open, but also from the approach to aero-elasticity of certain components – where perhaps Red Bull did things much more cleverly. And this counts not only for wings but also in the overall pitch of the car when it hits top speed on the straight.

    The second area of focus has been tyre management. Pirelli has moved towards new front tyres to help reduce understeer, something that could well suit what Ferrari’s concept needs as well as the driving style of Leclerc.

    In Maranello it has adapted the mathematical model of the new tyres in its simulation systems and the early results are positive.

    Ferrari has also been smart in offering to do as much as it can to help out Pirelli with its 2023 tyre development programme, knowing that every bit of feedback it can give and it can get could be crucial when it comes down to performance on race weekends.

    From the outside, the 675 will not be very different to the F1-75. The overall concept will remain similar but there will be some tweaks: most notably at the rear end thanks to a change that will allow a much more pronounced shape in the Coca-Cola region.

    Another aspect that drives confidence is the progress that engine chief Enrico Gualtieri and his department have made with the reliability of the 066/7 power unit.

    There have been positive signs from the test benches that the reliability problems that blighted the early phase of 2022 have been sorted, and that has lifted confidence of the team being able to turn its engine back up to full power next year.
     
  10. william

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    When WEC and IMSA switch to GT3, there will be:
    Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, Audi, Mercedes, Aston Martin, BMW, Corvette, Ford Mustang, McLaren, Maserati, Acura, and probably Jaguar, Bentley or Nissan will still have cars homologated.
    In Hypercar:
    Ferrari, Toyota, Peugeot, Glickenhaus and Vanwall
    plus in LMDh:
    Porsche, Cadillac, Lamborghini, BMW, Acura, and Alpine.
    Hypercars and LMDh can race in each other series.
     
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  11. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/sainz-i-know-vasseur-will-do-well-as-ferrari-f1-boss/10411351/

    Sainz: I know Vasseur will do well as Ferrari F1 boss
    Carlos Sainz is confident new Ferrari Formula 1 boss Frederic Vasseur is “going to do well” following an initial chat with the incoming team principal.


    By: Luke Smith
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    Ferrari announced on Tuesday that ex-Sauber F1 chief Vasseur would be taking over as team principal and general manager in January following Mattia Binotto’s resignation.

    Vasseur will join Ferrari after a six-season stint overseeing Sauber’s F1 efforts, racing under the Alfa Romeo brand for the past four years, as well as previously spending a brief period at Renault in 2016.

    Speaking at an Estrella Galicia event in Spain on Wednesday, Sainz said he hoped the arrival of Vasseur would be a “positive change”, noting the added motivation that comes with fresh blood.

    “Whenever someone new arrives, they have extra motivation, wanting to do well for themselves and for the team,” said Sainz.

    “You have to give him time to see how the team works; to know what changes are needed. Ferrari is very big and I know it will take time. It doesn't happen from one day to the next.”

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    Frédéric Vasseur, Ferrari

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    Sainz revealed he had already spoken with Vasseur since his appointment was confirmed, and that they were previously in contact when Vasseur was trying to sign Sainz during that short stint at Renault.

    Sainz would go on to join Renault in 2017 ahead of later moves to McLaren and then Ferrari.

    “I've heard very good things about him,” said Sainz.

    “I know him personally, he already wanted to sign me to go to Renault. I spoke to him yesterday, I called him and I had my first contact as a Ferrari driver.

    “I know he's going to do well.”

    Vasseur takes over at Ferrari at a time when the team is bidding to end a championship drought that dates back to 2008. While it scored its first win in two-and-a-half years in 2022, Ferrari failed to sustain a title challenge against Red Bull over the season.

    Sainz scored his maiden F1 win at the British Grand Prix in July, but he struggled to gel with the Ferrari F1-75 car in the early part of the year, and was hampered by six retirements over the season.

    He ended the season fifth in the championship, 62 points shy of team-mate Charles Leclerc.

    “This year is the first that I have had a really competitive car and it has made me learn a lot,” said Sainz.

    “I am sure that I will take advantage of this to improve in the future.”
     
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  12. 635CSI

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    Damn, I am already playing out scenarios in my head in which we win 2023.
    This tifosi thing which we are afflicted with.
    In my real life I am rational and realistic.
     
  13. jpalmito

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  15. Bas

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    Every year it's the same. Without fail. "ferrari has an amazing engine" "ferrari has an amazing aero trick" "ferrari to use fantastic suspension" "ferrari to have brand new gearbox that revolutionizes everything".

    I don't know why the italian media keeps doing this. It's as if they feed on the total disappointment year after year, and then they can sell even more news as they demand the sacking of driver/team members. Us tifosi eat all this nonsense up. Every year we are the test season world champions. We start polls how many races we'll win.

    The ******** stops on the first sunday, **** most times the Saturday results are already enough for us to say "there's always next year".

    Each year we fall into the same trap, without fail.

    Sorry for the pesimism, but I won't believe a ****ing word what amazing new thing comes out until it's actually there happening in front of our eyes in Bahrain. The "leaked upgrades" and power advantage is enough for every other team to instantly give up and focus on 2024 if even half of this is true.
     
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  16. jpalmito

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    Bas keep cool !
    All the tifosis know this.
    Christmas is coming fast and we all need to believe things will be sorted one day.
    In the end we are on a Ferrari fans forum and the minimum we can do to support our team is to be optimistic..;)
     
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  17. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Lol was about to come in and say, it's not aimed at you...it's at the idiot italian press that seems to get joy out of toying with Tifosi hearts...!
     
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  18. william

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    LOL
     
  19. Giallo 550

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    I think you effectively answered your own question.
     
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  20. william

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    Yeah, you believe in Father Christmas alright !!! LOL
     
  21. jpalmito

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    Of course..
    He drives a red car and bring dreams for the kids on this planet.
    A shame he didn’t meet you ..
     
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  22. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ
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    The Winter Season World Championship has already started; it's the best time of the year for the Tifosi.
     
  23. jpalmito

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    Why are you so bitter today?
    Enjoy life instead of being so mocking William ..
     

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